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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 07:54 PM
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a few observations
A few observations from hearing Edwards speak the other night that may be of interest and value for other Edwards supporters:

The "bully pulpit"

I was very glad to hear Edwards talk about the power of the bully pulpit, as we have a had a string of party leaders over the last 20 years who have not used it effectively. FDR was a master at this, as was John Kennedy. I notice that critics of Edwards are smearing him by saying "oh sure he talks but that doesn't mean he will do anything." Talking about the right things IS doing something. "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" - empty words?

So many times with both Clinton and Carter immense political gain could have been achieved, and terrible political problems avoided, if they would just open their mouths state in strong terms their visions for the country. All through the energy crisis of the 70's Carter refused to state the case for public transportation. That would have been immensely valuable. Clinton allowing the right wingers to dominate the debate was the biggest cause of his political troubles. "None of your business" would have worked fine in regards to his personal life, for example. Words spoken by a president are very powerful. The most successful leaders have always been those who have used the bully pulpit effectively.

Don't let Edwards critics say "oh that is just words" without challenging them on that.

Contrast what Edwards is saying to the words from the Congressional leadership, from whom we get no call to arms, no compelling statement of purpose, no passionate defense of universal ideals and principles or shared goals. Where are we going, why are we going there? You can't do anything in politics without public support, and you will never get public support if you do not open your mouth and make strong statements. To say "we do not have public support so we will play it safe" is a recipe for disaster.

The "buffer zone"

Edwards was talking about the need to have the wealthy pay their fair share of the burden and rolling back the Bush tax breaks for the privileged few, and made a very interesting and powerful comment. He said there should be a "buffer zone" - that people with household incomes between $90,000 and $250,000 should not be taxed at the same rates as the super-wealthy. I cannot praise the political wisdom of this enough. I will explain.

The income of 90% of the households is down under this $90,000 figure, and alarmingly an increasing number of those households is bunched down under $30,000 a year. Among the 10% above that level, most are between $90,000 and $250,000. They are not in the same category as the upper 1% that controls most of the wealth and income in the country. Those people in that range are the successful small businesspeople and professionals, often with two people in the household working full time, and punishing them for their success makes no sense politically.

But here is the most important thing about this - even though only a small percentage of the population enjoys an income of $90-250,000 per year, millions aspire to that level and work hard every day to achieve it, honestly and fairly. Most will not reach those levels, but we don't want to steal their dreams, nor invalidate their hard work and commitment to achievement and success.

"We are better than this"

This is a very powerful statement. He is not saying "I" he is saying "we." It is not merely an empty campaign slogan, either, because it is consistent with everything else he says - in casual conversation and spontaneous replies Edwards also says "we" automatically without thinking about it, and by "we" he clearly means all of us, and he obviously sees himself as one of us. Listen to the other candidates, and you can see that they betray a different perspective without realizing they are. They see themselves as a leadership elite, and their followers as the special ones admitted as junior members to the exclusive club.

Another important thing about this statement is that he says we "are" better. Too many Democrats say we can become better, and the public hears this - accurately - as elitist. "Become like us, the beautiful, enlightened, intelligent liberals." The general public deeply resents the implicit message of superiority and the veiled attack on the average person.

When people criticize Edwards for not being perfect, the powerful response is to say that he isn’t claiming to be, nor is the perfection of any candidate anything we should worry about. He is saying that we are better, not that he is better. There is an implicit call to arms in this, as well, and Edwards is very clear about another important point - we are going to be in for a fight. This is what Lincoln called us to, what FDR and JFK and RFK called us to, and it is the strength and the power of the Democratic party. We are in this together, we are better than this, and we can accomplish much together. Very powerful. This allows us to take the high road, the tried and true road when we support Edwards. No need to get down in the gutter with the supporters of the other candidates. No need to argue which candidate is “better.” We can be the better supporters, and that will draw more and more people to us.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 08:50 PM
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1. Thank you for this wonderful post!!
It's a perfect summation of all the reasons I love John Edwards!
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:08 PM
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2. glad to hear that
Thanks, smokey.

Your sig line cracked me up. :rofl:
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:22 PM
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4. Thanks, it's from a t-shirt I have.
I haven't summoned up the courage yet to wear the shirt outside the confines of my apartment.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:13 PM
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3. Great post, thanks TA.
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:47 AM
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5. Nice post....thanks!
Edwards is our only hope for this country, I believe that with all my heart. He is a man for true democracy.
The corporate world controls EVERYTHING, you guys know what I am talking about. I hope Iowans know this.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:04 PM
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6. Yes, YES and YES!!!
It's SO easy to twist the meaning of what one says. Edwards selflessness needs to be defended everywhere we can!:kick:
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 03:44 PM
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7. finding consensus
Dodd, Biden, Richardson and Kucinich, of course, are all saying things that reinforce, support and buttress Edwards' campaign and platform. Rather than get into feuds with the supporters of those candidates, why not reach out to them? That cannot hurt Edwards campaign, and we can start building bridges to the supporters of the other candidates for the fight ahead.

"My name is new in the field; and I suppose I am not the first choice of a very great many. Our policy, then, is to give no offence to others — leave them in a mood to come to us, if they shall be compelled to give up their first love."

Lincoln
March 24th 1860
letter to a campaign worker


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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 06:29 PM
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11. Beautiful words from Lincoln. Thank you for the reminder.
:thumbsup:
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 06:58 PM
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12. hey bobbolink
I finally get a chance to thank you in person. You are the reason I am here.

I have lurked for a long time, but I always thought that life was just too short to get involved in the ugliness here. Again and again, in the face of horrific abuse and hostility, I watched you tirelessly champion the less fortunate and the downtrodden, and I had a nagging sense of guilt that I didn't join just to give you moral support and to let you know that someone was paying attention to what you said. Then I heard Edwards speak and I knew I couldn't sit on the sidelines anymore.

You may often be out-numbered here, but never forget that you are the voice for millions of people who have been shunted aside and left behind.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:19 PM
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17. ~~tears~~ OMG! I'm flabberghasted--I don't know what to say....
Thank you.

Sincerely.

You don't know how much those words mean to me!

There is soooo much pain, and so much ignorance of that pain, and so much .... just IGNORING.

I'm at a loss anymore.

I welcome your input.

Truly.

:hug:
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frogmarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:10 PM
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8.  Read and approved by all those 18 and over
who are at my house for the holidays. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks, Two Americas.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 05:38 PM
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9. Thanks TA !
You speak for me :D
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 06:28 PM
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10. "He is saying 'we'"! That can't be emphasized too much!
ONe fear I have is people still not getting it that he is motivating US, and it's, in the last analysis, up to US. He can't do it alone.

You mention FDR -- one of the things FDR did, when Eleanor went to him with problems people were having that needed his attention, he would say "Make me." In other words, get people organized, and build a compelling case, and then I'll have a mandate to follow.

It's what we MUST do.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:06 AM
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16. such an important point
This can't be stated too many times. I agree completely.
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 08:27 PM
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13. Bravo and Thank You.
We must not fall into the trap of thinking that our candidate must be perfect. Look who's president. He had absolute NO qualifications for the job.

I believe John Edwards is a very good communicator and will talk to us, not just at us.


:yourock:
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 08:32 PM
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14. The "buffer zone" - these are the people who Howard Zinn says in
"People's History of the United States" have always been used by the uber-rich to such good effect. The very wealthy use the upper-middle class to keep everyone else down. If 99% of us realized that the problem is, indeed, the 1% uber-rich we'd make a whole lot of progress dealing with our urgent problems.
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 12:57 AM
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15. a unique and important challenge
The activist community - the most visible and outspoken volunteers and workers and writers and speakers - are disproportionately from that upper 10% in annual household income - $90,000 and up. They often have a great deal of difficulty in feeling empathy or solidarity with the millions of families down below $30,000 annual income even though they are closer to the working poor than they are to the super wealthy. You can see the angry antagonism and contempt displayed here - stupid people deserve to be mauled by tigers, for example, and people shouldn't get a "free ride" and people injured through corporate negligence are on the "gravy train" and striking writers who aren't earning enough should "get a real job" or something.

This is a challenge. We don't need all of those people, but we do need a few just as we needed a few whites to stand with us in the fight for civil rights. This is a test of our patience and our compassion.

By the way, IndyOp, your post tonight about the statements on peace by Edwards is excellent. We are encouraged to compartmentalize things so much, and that prevents us from making important connections. Peace comes through justice. The Bush administration takes the same approach in New Orleans as it does in Iraq. If we stand for justice, if we fight against poverty here at home, we can support the fight for justice and against poverty abroad as well, and eliminate the root causes of violence and war. We cannot have peace abroad if we do not have justice and equality at home.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-29-07 02:39 PM
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18. As long as most people believe the drivel that "everyone can succeed in 'Murka if they work hard",
it's not likely we will see most people come to the realization that they've been had.

It's a myth we, as 'Murkins, cherish.

It's where most peoples' sense of "hope" comes from.
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