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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:54 PM
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I am posting here because I am sick of being attacked as a conspiracy theorist
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 02:56 PM by saracat
Just want to add that my phone rang of the hook this morning with party operatives who can't understand "what" Janet Napolitano is doing by endorsing Obama.No one would have expected her to edorse Edwards because she sort of "owes" Clinton. So that isn't the point.Everyone is expressing concern that this is "completely" out of chracter for her.So I guess I am not the only one who is "nuts' and wondering what the hell is going on with these "bizzarre endorsements".And I am no neophyte to believe is is "just because they like what the candidate stands for! "I guess I need a tinfoil hat when I couple this with the Laurence O'Donnell statement that Edwards is "blocking a black candidate and those who support him must be racist!" Oh yeah, nothing is orchestrated folks. Just independent conclusion that implode together in sequence. Uh Huh!
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waiting for hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:03 PM
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1. Sara - I see it too -
But, right now there is an Obama wave and trying to throw a little logic in there isn't going to work. Here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/shut-up-larry_b_81091.html

Post this story - it's a great slam against O'Donnell and I think there would be a ton of good response to it.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:03 PM
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2. No doubt that this is all carefully orchestrated.
It's all just too strange.

The money trail provides the answers. Follow the money, follow the money, follow the money...and see whose feet it stops at. ;)

Guess we'd all better stock up on :tinfoilhat: before the stores run out of stock!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:30 PM
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3. It does seem strange-
Why now? Why in this short of a period of time? We need to do something.

I'm asking everyone to PM me with their e-mail address. We're putting together a grassroots coalition to deal with just this kind of stuff.

We've got more than 20 people getting the e-mail everyday, who's with us? We could start a letter writing campaign on this right now!
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 07:27 PM
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4. i don't get it. what's going on? why is everyone so upset? about what?
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:49 PM
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5. We have to remain positive, we have to keep going and doing.
I unsubscribed from Kerry's newsletter and wrote my Senator a letter telling him how disappointed I was in him, I wish him well, but it is with a very heavy heart that I saw him endorsing another candidate. I support Edwards with heart & soul!

Let's face it, Obama and Clinton have their big backers, Edwards is fighting the big machine. It's not conspiracy theory, it's fact. I think with a lot of support from we the people on 2/5, the MSM will no longer be able to ignore the voice of the people, nor our candidate, Edwards.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 09:05 PM
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8. Speaking of "Big Backers"
I don't know if this is kosher here, but I want to share something I heard on NPR awhile ago.
They played a clip from a speech that Hillary gave in Nevada today. In it she said that she'd propose a 3-month moratorium on home forclosures. The idea being that those about to lose their homes would get some breathing space to work things out. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......... I can place a safe bet - without even finding proof - that mortgage lenders have contributed to Hillary's coffers along the way. So let's see.... She confers with them and they give her the nod to make such a gesture. After all, the lenders stand to do better if their loans aren't defaulted on and they get a foot in the door of the oval office for future dealings. :think: All in the people's favor, of course! :sarcasm:
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:55 PM
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6. I think they're all opening their pie-holes
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 08:55 PM by Ms. November
hoping to get first in line for the big hand out of jobs or cabinet positions since there is only the appearance of Obama's taking the entire country. Just sayin. I'm sure that's what Kerry is doing. He's got his head so far up Obama's butt, his eyes are brown. Arrrggghhhhhhhh



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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:59 PM
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7. Even Richardson says don't count Edwards out. We've only got
two states down, there's 48 more to go!
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 02:31 AM
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10. That is funny-
and strangely disturbing at the same time.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:20 AM
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9. I agree, the sudden spate of endorsements is strange...
I don't know WHAT's going on. The one that really upset me was Ned Lamont. John Edwards was the one who personally showed up and campaigned for him against Lieberman. Yet he endorses Obama, whose silence was deafening? Here's Josh Marshal's take on the endorsements:

Now, there are a bunch of things you can draw from this spate of endorsements. One is that these folks don't seem worried about themselves running or having their supporters run with Obama at the top of the ticket. And these are people from either very conservative or somewhat conservative states. Despite the fact that Obama is running in some ways to the right of Clinton (at least tonally, as the candidate of unity and bipartisan reconcilation), there are still a lot of questions inevitably being asked about whether the country is 'ready' for Obama, whether that's his race, his name, his background in community organizing, his youth, etc. So these folks think America's ready; in fact, more ready than they are for Hillary.

But that isn't the biggest significance. The key is timing. You don't hit a big time politician like Hillary Clinton when she's down unless you're really against her and you're fairly confident she's not getting back up. After winning in New Hampshire, albeit narrowly and after the clobbering in Iowa, there's been a sense that Clinton may be back on track to consolidating her frontrunner status and perhaps following a modified version of the standard script in which the anointed frontrunner gets a scare in the early states before mopping up the competition as the race goes national. But these four clearly don't want that to happen. In fact, they're sticking their necks pretty far out to help make it not happen. And their endorsements, coming right now, tell me they have some confidence it won't.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/063503.php


I don't know if Josh is right or not, but it does seem to explain some very odd endorsements, plus the timing.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 11:02 AM
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12. But , other than assuming Clinton is dead in the water, or "blocking her"
it doesn't explain much.It certainly doesn't explian why those who "owe" Clinton, like Janet , and those who "owe" Edwards, like Lamont , endorsed Obama.There has got to be more.
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:07 AM
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11. Maybe a lot of people are getting nervous
Establishment Dems have been forced into a pro/anti Clinton. Reporters, too. There have been a few comments from them about fearing the Clintons and retribution. Few of these people would be supporting Edwards. So Obama benefits. I suspect many of the announcements seen after NH were actually made before NH but after Iowa, at the peak of the Obama bandwagon.

I am becoming alarmed the more I see Obama. There is a thread that says it better than I (I do have a reply in it.). I think it is a must read.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2676101
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