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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:02 PM
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OK, Edwards supporters. We can't let the GOP keep the White House. Who do we support?
We have two choices: Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

How do we decide who is best?

Which one has the best chance to win against John McCain?

Which one is the most trustworthy?

Which one has plans closest to John Edwards plans?

Who is the least offensive?

Maybe we can have a civil, respectful discussion about the facts and compare positives and negatives and decide where to go. In the absence of an Edwards endorsement, we're going to have to fly solo on this one, but perhaps as a group we can at least compile enough info in one place that Edwards supporters can see what they need to see at a glance.

I'll start.

I think Hillary is in a pretty good position to withstand whatever attacks the GOP throws at her. She and Bill have been investigated, investigated, investigated by the GOP, and nothing has really stuck.

Plus, Bill will be an excellent Ambassador for the country. He was loved all over the world, and after the Bush era, he can restore respect and dignity quickly, since he's a known, a familiar face, and someone remembered fondly.

What else? Anybody have good points about Barack?
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:06 PM
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1. Sorry, Andy.
I'm in no mood for it today. Maybe in a few days I'll be ready to think about it but not today.
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smokey nj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:08 PM
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2. Honestly Andy, I don't see much difference between the two. Whomever gets the nomination
will get my vote in Nov., but that's about all.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:27 PM
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3. I'm going to need a few days.
Then I'll look at both Clinton's and Obama's sites again, re-read their stand on things, and try to decide that.

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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:29 PM
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4. irrelevant
We fought for a cause, not for a personality.

We will all pull the lesser of two evils lever. We always do. But that isn't a true reflection of what is happening. The two evils themselves get worse and worse and worse, and part of the game is always that one of them is slightly better than the other. When people are ready to talk seriously about that, then we will have something.

I am not shopping for a consumer item, trying to make my best personal choice, and I am not going to paw through the second-rate merchandise trying to convince myself that there is something of value there.
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:52 PM
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6. I hear you.
:(
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:31 PM
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5. The last thing I want to do right now is think about Hillary or Barack. nt
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Silver Gaia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:52 PM
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7. I hear that, too. Just can't do it today.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:53 PM
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8. Well, we don't have to do it today.
I understand everyone is feeling bad, so do I.

But if anyone comes across something that might be of interest, I'd appreciate them posting it here. I don't want the GOP to continue their reign over America.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:04 PM
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9. I will NEVER vote for Barrack.he is corrupt IMHO. Rezko has legs.
But in all honestly, I no longer care who gets the WH.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:14 PM
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10. We seem to be in agreement.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:21 PM
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17. We are
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:58 PM
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13. I agree
If Edwards was affiliated with Rezco...it would have been non-stop media circus 24/7 until he was forced to drop out.
Obama has been given a pass...thus far. However, ANYONE who doesn't believe that Rezco will be a household name by the time the republicans finish with Obama haven't been paying attention.
Same with Hillary.
We are now left with two "glass ceiling" breaking candidates and IMHO, neither of them can win because of their baggage that has NOTHING to do with race or gender.
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Andrea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:33 PM
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11. I admire you Andy
For being able to take a positive approach at this time.

As for me, I regret that I do not think I'll be able to vote.

Hillary is too tied in with the corporatacracy. Barack may be, too. Voting for Hillary is like voting for Bush. Barack doesn't stand a chance because he has too much baggage. I think Rezko is just a dollop of the gigantic flood of mud the GOP will be able to bring down on him.

The only positive thing I can think of is that neither Hillary nor Barack seem as war hungry as McCain. But that probably doesn't matter because they will change once the powers that be tell them to.

When I was canvassing for Kerry in '04, I got so frustrated by the people who said they wouldn't vote because there was no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats. I kept trying to convince them that at least a Democrat, no matter which Democrat, would try to restore our constitution. Well, I no longer feel that way. I don't see either of these candidates doing anything about it. We no longer have a voice. Our civil liberties are gone, not to be retrieved. Our voting system is corrupted and will remain so.

It is time to move on. Literally. We need to make plans now to leave this country while we are still able to do so. Fascism is upon us.

I hope I feel better in a few days, but I do not expect to.
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 04:38 PM
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12. I support John Edwards. that is the only one I WILL support
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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:14 PM
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14. You know the one thing I think Hillary has?

Spine.

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adnelson60087 Donating Member (661 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 05:47 PM
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15. It doesn't matter since neither one can win
in Nov. Get ready for President elect McCain. This is a sad day in America's history.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:20 PM
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16. Andy, I am voting for JRE in my upcoming primary
and letting the 'people' decide about November.

They are two sides of the same coin. As a typical DU'er i know more about them and their platforms than 95% of the electorate and neither has that spark.

No more money, no more volunteer time. I am now an official observer to the M$M-designated "which corporate candidate" process that is the US election.
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potone Donating Member (359 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 11:32 PM
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18. I, too, am so disappointed that I cannot think about the other candidates.
I also don't understand the timing. Edwards did not state clearly why he is dropping out, and I don't understand why he didn't wait at least until after super Tuesday. Damn, damn, damn, damn. I feel bad tonight.:cry:
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