Ha! McCain is "leading " in the national polls.This is what the Obama worship is doing.

[saracat]

[medeak]

1. no...it's what the Clinton negativity is doing

why are you doing this triggering...I used to like to come here

[saracat]

2. I am not promoting Clinton here. I merely state my opinion as to the "why"

of the McCain lead. My view is that the average American will NOT buy what Obama is selling. We would have lead in a landslide with Edwards.

[midnight]

19. True. America's citizens would have voted him in by a massive

lead, but our corporations wanted their needs meet once again. Like Edwards said. a Democratic corporate vs Republican corporate.

[AndyA]

3. It's not just Clinton. And it's not just Obama. It's both.

The fact is, NEITHER of them are truly the best person for President. Neither of them are best prepared to fix the multitude of problems that shit in his pants Bush will leave this country with.

And before someone attacks me, JOHN MCSAME isn't either.

We have second rate candidates running who are more palatable than Bush, but that's setting the standard awfully low. And how pathetic that we have to scrape bottom to find reasons to support someone. And that's where I'm at now, and have been since Edwards dropped out. Which candidate is the least offensive to me? That's where it's at for many. How sad that this is the best we can possibly expect from America today. Pathetic is the word.

Obama's supporters ARE acting like a cult. They question nothing. They accept the promises without second thought. The fact is, Obama's past doesn't match up to the promises he's making. Now he's going down the same path as Bush: He didn't know about the things his preacher said. He didn't know McClurkin was going to insult gays. He didn't know Rezko was a mobster. Is Barack really this clueless? Do we really want someone who is this out of touch leading the country? (Again.)

About the only thing anyone can give him credit for is that he didn't vote for the IWR. Oh wait...he wasn't a Senator for that vote, so that doesn't count. And he has voted to fund the war almost every single time once he was in a position to do so.

Hillary loves lobbyists, and the status quo in Washington. One never knows for certain which side of the fence she's on, because it changes to suit the situation. Enough said.

McSame is the same as Bush, more bad news ahead for the entire world if he gets the office.

In my opinion, the Obama supporters have been more annoying than those from Hillary's side. And while I would never judge a candidate by their supporters, I am VERY reluctant to put myself in a position where I would be considered one of them. Even moreso the Obama side.

[saracat]

4. I agree Andy. But I must say I am more repulsed by Obama.However did

we get in this situation when we had candidates who could win? Nevermind, I know the answer.

[AndyA]

5. Candidates who could win?

You mean you actually realize the importance of being able to BEAT the Republican in November? I wish others had considered this say, back in January when we DID have a candidate who beat EVERY REPUBLICAN.

I think you know who I'm talking about.

[saracat]

6. Yeah , well, you know how important it is that we "make history" whether or not

we win. Howard had to intervene to ensure that and a few other things.Hey think since "God Damn America" is now acceptable, God Damn the DNC could be? Or maybe GD Howard?

[bpeale]

20. i went to get my water jugs filled today...

i have three 5 gal. jugs & five 3 gal. jugs & i'm standing there filling & filling & filling and some guy in the next lane over notices my edwards bumpersticker & asks me who i'm going to vote for now. i said NEITHER. I DON'T THINK EITHER OF THEM IS QUALIFIED. he said the dems will lose in november if either of those two are the nominee & that edwards WAS the only one who had ideas & was well-qualified to be president. made me feel proud that i picked the right guy even if he's not in the race anymore. but like edwards said i'm keeping my powder dry & hoping for an explosion in denver.

[Two Americas]

21. widespread

That sentiment - "dems will lose in november if either of those two are the nominee & that edwards WAS the only one who had ideas" - is very widespread in my experience.

The question for me is what those who supported Edwards will take away from this. Clearly, the system will not permit Edwards to get his message to the people. Yet many refuse to give up hope in the system, or even look very closely at what the system is and how it works. That is why Edwards lost. We were completely dependent upon him, and upon the spurious hope that all we needed to do was "support" him and that would be sufficient. Now that Edwards has left the race, you can see that in no time the solidarity of the Edwards supporters has mostly disintegrated.

We were being propped up by his candidacy, and have no internal strength or resiliency on our own. That is fatal in a representative democracy - we offer nothing very strong or substantial for politicians to represent, we instead look for a politician whom we can represent - identify with, associate ourselves with. Once we no longer have a "choice" - a personality that we can cheer lead for and promote - we collapse back into the pile of limp, soggy, wet noodles that we are.

[Greylyn58]

7. I'm just sick at heart over everything that has been done.

We had a man who would have walked through fire to fix the problems facing this country. He would have been an advocate for all Americans--the rich, the poor, the hopeless, and the helpless. Unfortunately the Dems wanted to make history, so he was thrown under the bus.

Once again we the voters are losing out. :cry:

[waiting for hope]

8. My husband said FUCK YOU to the media

back in late Dec, early Jan when Olbermann was showing the percentages of Obama and Hillary vs McCain. No Edwards numbers in there, none - why? Becuase Edwards had both of them beat by 10-12 points. We screwn.

[Catchawave]

9. I can't watch Olbermann these days....

Obama can do no wrong. :silly:

[balantz]

10. I wasn't aware that Obermann was in on the Edwards media blackout

back in December. He reads the M$M script too. He was given license to chew out the shrub to satisfy the "liberal crowd", but apparently he plays along with the plan to promote the corporate candidates if he was leaving Edwards out of the picture in December like the rest of the media was.

Fuck Keith

[waiting for hope]

11. KO is Big Media - Big Time.

Edwards gave him so many openings about boycotting Fox because of the fair and balance thingy, but did KO take the opening? Not once. The only time he paid attention was over the homeless vets issue Edwards got into with Billo. I really lost a ton of respect for the guy then, even more so now. He has said in countless interviews that he doesn't vote, you know, to stay true to the journalist creed (whatever), but damn if he doesn't sound like he's on Obama's payroll these days.

[balantz]

12. I haven't watched M$M for quite some time now,

so I have not really paid attention to Olbermann except when he is linked on DU. I had enjoyed the shrub-bashing clips that have been posted here, but I see now that Olbermann is just like the rest of the media. It was discouraging to watch Moyers, Rose and others ignore Edwards along with the rest of M$M at critical times in his campaign when he so needed some media support. It was sad when I recently discovered that there is no voice for me in the media. I feel completely abandoned by the government, the Democratic Party, and the media, which now includes journalists I had trusted to be the few lone voices representing truth in journalism. I feel alone and separated in this country, and for a parent who lives in poverty that is a very sad and frightful feeling.

[flyarm]

14. absolutely..he was the first to do the blackout with tweety! fuck them! eom

[flyarm]

13. olberman can go fuck himself..i will never watch him again! or MSNBC they are on child block in my

home ..along with Faux.

fuck them!

eom

[bpeale]

15. i quit watching KO in jan. when john edwards suspended

KO could have done more to show he was non-partisan. (on EDIT: KO is part of the problem, not part of the solution).i don't listen to him. i don't watch him. he is banned as far as i am concerned. i haven't watched the news at all since John suspended and won't for the forseeable future ... (and i bet i'm STILL more informed than 75% of the population!).

[waiting for hope]

16. bpeale, I concur.

And you are better informed! ;)

[bpeale]

17. thanks for the complement!

i :loveya:

[iris5426]

18. Yup same here... nt