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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:44 PM
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VA report: There is no Gulf War syndrome (AP/CNN)

I don't know about the rest of you, but as far as everything else vets have had to put up with these past few years, this one pisses me off the most!

I guess cause it hits me pretty close to home, I entered the service during the GW, didn't make it overseas as it ended quite quickly. But everyone I knew was there, and well I saw some guys just deteriate.

For them to tell me, that there is no syndrome!!??

I tell you what, if it wasn't anything biological or chemical, I bet dollars to dollars it was probaly something they gave those guys / gals.

I remember when I deployed to Haiti we were given these two pills to help with god knows what. One was blue, other was pinkish. At first we were told to take one blue once a day and pink once a week. Next day, orders came down that it was backwards (after we had already taken a dose of this shit).

Almost comical that the next day they changed it again...I still have no clue what I was taking, not like they were marked any.

I'm starting to wonder now if maybe folks in the GW were given some crap like this too and the Syndrome was just some side affects. Needless to say if I was the gov't espicially this one, I'd want to sweep it under the carpet too!



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POSTED: 11:35 a.m. EDT, September 12, 2006

WASHINGTON (AP) -- There is no such thing as Gulf War syndrome, even though U.S. and foreign veterans of the war report more symptoms of illness than do soldiers who didn't serve there, a federally funded study concludes.

U.S. and foreign veterans of the Gulf War do suffer from an array of very real problems, according to the Veterans Administration-sponsored report released Tuesday.

Yet there is no one complex of symptoms to suggest those veterans -- nearly 30 percent of all those who served -- suffered or still suffer from a single identifiable syndrome.

"There's no unique pattern of symptoms. Every pattern identified in Gulf War veterans also seems to exist in other veterans, though it is important to note the symptom rate is higher, and it is a serious issue," said Dr. Lynn Goldman, of Johns Hopkins University, who headed the Institute of Medicine committee that prepared the report.
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Veterans can now claim those benefits only by making an undiagnosed illness claim, said Steve Robinson, a Gulf War Army veteran and government relations director for Veterans for America
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more: http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/09/12/gulf.illness.ap/in...
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 03:54 PM
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1. Wouldn't want george 'poppy' bush blamed for a terrible thing like......
'Gulf War Syndrome', now would we. Might damage his already damaged legacy further.
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MikeNearMcChord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:10 PM
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2. Democrats should jump all over this.
The GOP is sh**ing over the vets, let the freeper defend this!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:13 PM
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3. But it must be true:
Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny told them so.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-12-06 04:21 PM
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4. Yeah, there was no damage from Agent Orange,either
Anybody who expects an agency that's been as politicised as the VA to be honest about this stuff is dreaming.

My guess is that the syndrome may be a combination of unfamiliar pathogens, low doses of nerve gas, and vaporized depleted uranium. The VA especially doesn't want to admit the latter, yet it's probably responsible for the much higher than normal incidence of birth defects in children born to GW vets.

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Major Hogwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-13-06 10:46 PM
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5. Fuckin' A, Warpy! And next week they'll say there's no such thing as PTSD
The blowhards down at the VA try to wiggle their way out of everything. They want to cut costs by not providing services by not recognizing medical conditions that involve the human mind or the psyche.

Give 'em 6 more months and they'll be slapping the soldiers stationed in Iraq and calling them cowards à la Patton, and saying that there is no such thing as PTSD!!
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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 07:01 AM
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6. Have you seen Beyond Treason?
http://beyondtreason.com/

DESCRIPTION:

The U.S. Government's Long History of Experimenting on Military Troops and Their Own Documents That Prove It.

WHAT CAUSES GULF WAR ILLNESS?

Some believe these illnesses are caused by exposure to depleted uranium munitions used on the battlefield. Others believe chemical and biological exposures are the prime suspect. While yet an even larger group argue that experimental vaccines given to our troops, without their knowledge or consent, may have lead to the demise of many of these soldiers.

Is it a combination of overlapping exposures?

A growing number of scientists and respected experts in their fields have been coming forward to share their research and first-hand knowledge of official betrayal.

As ailing Gulf War Heroes from all 27 coalition countries slowly die of “unknown causes,” they wait for answers from their respective governments… but no satisfying or even credible answers have come forth from the military establishment. Records that span over a decade point to negligence and even culpability on the part of the U.S. Department of Defense and their “disposable army” mentality.

The VA has determined that 250,000 troops are now permanently disabled, 15,000 troops are dead and over 425,000 are ill and slowly dying from what the Department of Defense still calls a “mystery disease.” How many more will have to die before action is taken?

This 90 minute film presents comprehensive and compelling documentation from United States Government archives of a massive cover-up lasting over two generations.



Any US Veteran can get a free DVD. See details at the bottom of the home page.

"Welcome Home, Brother" - better late than never.
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-14-06 10:21 AM
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7. No, haven't seen it!
Edited on Thu Sep-14-06 10:21 AM by malmapus
Think I might check it out now, thanks!

EDIT because I'm still waking up.
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AbsoluteArmorer Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-16-06 05:36 PM
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8. shades of Agent Orange
Sure reminds me of when we came back from the Nam and how long it took the VA to even think about recognizing Agent Orange. It's what they (our gov) does best. They cut your throat for stuff they did to you while in the service.

Hope you and your buds fair well with this GW Syndrome ordeal, but get ready for a long ride. It won't be long about hearing nuclear contamination effecting our war vets and the VA denying that one too.

:wtf:
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