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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-04-07 12:33 PM
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South Slavonian and other Gypsy Witch-lore
Edited on Wed Jul-04-07 01:32 PM by icymist
Some of the statements in this article is, IMHO, Bull! i.e.: You will find on page 2 a statement that the Gypsy religion is identical to that of the American Indian. I know from personal experience that this is not the case. I put this article here to help understand the lore from Slavonia and such. It's a good read, it's entertaining, but should be read with your BS meter turned on. Enjoy.


There is current in the whole of the Southern Slavonian provinces a vast mass of legends and other lore relating to witches, which, in the opinion of Dr. Friedrich S. Krauss, may also be regarded as Romany, since it is held in common with the gypsies. There can, indeed, be very little doubt that most of it was derived from, or disseminated by, them, since they have been the principal masters in magic and doctors in medicine in the Slavonic lands for many centuries. There are others deeply learned in this subject who share the same opinion, it being certain that the gypsies could hardly have a separate lore for themselves and one for magic practices on others, and I entertain no doubt that they are substantially the same; but to avoid possible error and confusion, I give what I have taken in this kind from Dr. KRAUSS 1 and others by itself.


As the English word witch, Anglo-Saxon Wicca, comes from a root implying wisdom, so the pure Slavonian word vjestica, Bulgarian, vjescirica (masculine, viestae), meant originally the one knowing or well informed, and it has preserved the same power in allied languages, as Veaa (New Slovenish), knowledge, Vedavica, a fortune-teller by cards, Viedma (Russian), a witch, and Vedwin, fatidicus. In many places, especially in Dalmatia, witches are more gently or less plainly called Krstaca, the crossed, from Krst, a cross, i.e.,greek word (my edit) {Greek xristós}, or Rogulja, "horned," derived from association with the horns of devils. In Croatia the Italian Striga is used, while among the Slovenes and Kai-Kroats the term copernica (masculine, coprnjak). "But it enrages the witches so much to be called by this word that when they hear that any one has used it they come to his house by night and tear him in four pieces, which they cast afar into the four quarters of the earth, yea, and thereunto carry away all the swine, horses, and cattle, so intolerable is their wrath." Therefore men use the word hmana zena, or "common woman," hmana being the Slavonic pronunciation of the German word gemein, or common. In Dalmatia and far into Servia a witch is called macisnica, and magic, mačija, which is, evidently enough, the Italian magia. But there are witches and witches, and it appears that among the learned the vjestica differs from the macionica, and this from the Zlokobnica who, as the "evil-meeter," or one whom it is unlucky to encounter in the morning, is probably only one who has the evil eye. A quotation from a Servian authority, given by Dr. KRAUSS, is as follows:

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rickrok66 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-05-07 07:30 AM
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1. Interesting article
In Russian, the word for witch is ved'ma or "knowing one". It is from the Old Church Slavonic word for "to know" - "vedat'". The Old Church Slavonic language serves as the basis for the other slavic languages too.
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