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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 06:44 AM
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"... out of many, we are one..."
So I took a rare jump into the GD pool to try and make a point about the significance of the use of "In god we trust" as a national motto:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4420924&mesg_id=4420924

Any predictions on the response?

I'm betting it just drops like a stone but perhaps I'll get flamed, the least likely option I think unfortunately will be that it will spark a bit of supportive or even interesting engaged discussion.
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kdmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:50 PM
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1. Guess it was doomed when he showed up...
Seemed like everyone kind of missed the point.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:51 PM
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2. But overall I was pleasantly surprised
most of the responses were positive and it even got on the greatest page for a bit.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:42 PM
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3. I always ask people to explain "In God We Trust"...
It doesn't really mean anything.

--IMM
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 03:02 PM
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6. We trust in God (?)
Even yet, sometimes things really end up in a clusterf--k.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 05:10 PM
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7. See what I mean?
--IMM
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:10 PM
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4. Nicely written post, Yankee -
I'll comment if (and when) my sinuses ever clear enough to allow my brain to function at even a minimal level . . . sigh.

Had to laugh at CommieP's thought's on who "ignored" might be (they're ignored for me, also, and as I only have three people on my list, I know it's not Queensryche. I'm betting on OMC, given your response - flinging accusations and personal attacks is definitely his/her modus operandi).

:evilgrin:
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:37 PM
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5. You win the cigar :)
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 08:02 PM
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8. You realise that's basically a quote from the bible, don't you?
"we, who are many, are one body" - 1 Corinthians 10:17
"we who are many form one body" - Romans 12:5
and maybe more.

They use it in the Anglican communion service.
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YankeyMCC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-12-08 05:49 AM
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9. I didn't realize that but
the source doesn't bother me if it promotes good values and the "out of many we are one" supports a good secular value rather than the divisive "in god we trust" which sets up an 'us and them' mentality.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-14-08 12:01 PM
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10. Marginally true, if at all
Edited on Fri Nov-14-08 12:02 PM by TechBear_Seattle
One could make the argument that "Land of the free and home of the brave" was a quote from the Bible, if you picked a translation that fit what you were looking for and weren't too picky in how the Biblical line was worded.

The correct phrase is "E pluribus, unum" which translates into English as "From many, one." It expressed a dearly held dream of the Founders: that many sovereign states would become one country.
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