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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 01:47 AM
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Hitchens Destroys God's A-Hole Todd Friel During Friel's Stupid "What If" Radio Game
It's a radio show on You Tube. Hitch is incredible:

Part I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZB0lLIcXIA

Part II: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E01VPsdozSo&feature=related
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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 03:05 AM
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1. Crimeny, that was funny as hell!
What if...

Your straight man is wittier than you?

Your foil schools you on Biblical details you ought to know?

Your guest handles your fast talk and context switching like slow pitches over the plate?

You come off as someone who thought he could bag a rhino with toothpicks? *plink* *plink* *plink*

...you get buttfucked in front of millions, that's what.

That made my evening, thank you.

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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 05:06 AM
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5. That's hilarious...nt
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 11:11 AM
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2. And that's what passes
for a heresy trial nowadays? This is truly a day of hope.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-12-09 10:32 PM
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3. I really need to read Hitchens' book.
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 12:09 AM
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4. Now there was a guy who hadn't read anything of Hitchens'.
It was pathetic the way Friel kept saying, "This is a game..."

Well, in the decision to dispense with faith, it actually isn't to you when you've done it. I don't know if anyone else has had enough of the religious inculcation that's just innate to our culture, but I would bet I'm not alone in guessing that many professed atheists have actually already played this game out, ourselves, in our own minds, in a moment of doubt about our own doubt. "What if" there's a God? I wasn't brought up particularly religious, but I know I kind of did. What if?

Well, right. If He/She/It (to cover the gender possibilities--we're made in God's image, but male and female he created us--just going by the rules of the game--we could also go with both, but maybe gender was an afterthought for Adam and Eve: this would explain sooooo much) is omniscient, I don't have to answer for my life--God would already know. Just by the rules of the game, you see. He/She/It should also know better than to expect unending gratitude, or being also omnipotent (we're just talking about the rules of the game) should easily know how to get that gratitude if He/She/It wants it. If there is a God, who is both omniscient and omnipotent, exactly what standard does He/She/It (she-he-it? I think I like how that would be pronounced) employ to morally judge us, admittedly far less perceptive entities? Does God really need to be acknowledged by us on a regular basis to feel good about she-he-itself? And should we really feel good about the news that she-he-it sent s/h/itself in our form to die for us?

I don't really want to see anybody die. It's a lousy way to do business. It's a guilt-trip. Did she-he-it roll back the stone on an empty tomb as "proof of life" to hold shimitself hostage these past 2000 years, and expect us to give good behavior in return? If it was she-he-it's choice to do that well before I was even born--what's it to do with me? I'm sorry, Omnipotent, Omnipresent, Omniscient deity--you didn't ask me, I can't take it back, and if I were there, I'd have been circulating a petition to try and get Your charges dropped. The scenario isn't merely absurd--to toss it back at whoever said "I believe it because it's absurd" and also at CS Lewis, who rather ruined the Narnia Chronicles at the end with a Rapture, who basically pinned his faith on the same "credo quia absurdam" business, and who all those debaters end up coming back to--it's cruel. It doesn't speak well of God for arranging it, and it doesn't speak well of us if we accepted that gift, because it's too great a price. No murder on my behalf, really. Thanks, but no. Not even if the sacrifice lives. Because that means I'd be complicit in it and would stand to gain, and everything my reason tells me is moral says, "That ain't right."

Hitchens has thought the game out already, lived it, has the t-shirt.

It wouldn't be so bad for Friel if he "practiced" that thought-experiment out a bit, though.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 08:43 AM
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6. Good grief, what a dipshit.
And an irritating one at that. He's like a Glenn Beck wanna-be. I'd be happy if I never hear that guy again.

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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 09:01 AM
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7. Todd Friel sounds like a disciple of Kirk Cameron's group
Edited on Mon Apr-13-09 09:13 AM by WhollyHeretic
The questions sound like the little "quiz" that was on that idiotic Way of the Master.

on edit: I just googled him and his radio show is on way of the master radio. Jesus those people are a bunch of simpletons.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 09:56 AM
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8. If you're a masochist, you can watch them BOTH here:
kirk and todd interview paul washer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5i8NlhLXjA4

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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:13 AM
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9. I don't know if I can handle that much stupid on a Monday morning
:crazy:
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 10:49 AM
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10. Memo to self: always read subject lines BEYOND the fourth word. -nt
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-13-09 05:12 PM
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11. Found an mp3 of the whole thing available for download.
http://www.savefile.com/files/2075311
https://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=batch_download&batch_id=UmNMUWV0R0ZlcEpMWEE9PQ

I can vouch for the one at savefile.com but haven't checked out the one at yousendit.com
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-15-09 08:12 PM
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12. The one at savefile.com is A-OK
Thanks for posting the links. Always good to hear a moron theist getting his ass handed to him by someone like Hitchens. :)
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