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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 05:59 PM Original message |
AANEWS for Monday, July 27, 2009 (long) |
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A M E R I C A N A T H E I S T S
A A N E W S #1265 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 7/27/09 http://www.atheists.org http://www.americanatheist.org http://www.atheistviewpoint.tv ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A Service of AMERICAN ATHEISTS, a nationwide movement that defends civil rights for non-believers; works for the total separation of Church and State; and addresses issues of First Amendment public policy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "ATHEIST is really a thoroughly honest, unambiguous term, it admits of no paltering and no evasion, and the need of the world, now as ever, is for clear-cut issues and unambiguous speech." -- Chapman Cohen ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In This Issue... * "Fellowship" scandal widens amidst concerns of cover-up * Buckner to "Invoke" at County meet Tuesday * NYC Atheists host "Final Exit" doctor * Worth Noting... * Resources About this list... "CHRISTIAN MAFIA" SCANDAL WIDENS -- BUZZFLASH -- GROUP WOULD CONCEAL CHILD MOLESTATION? A mushrooming scandal over members of the U.S. congress and a shadowy religious "fellowship"based in Washington, DC is attracting more news coverage and questions, and could lead to calls that the House Ethics Committee open an immediate investigation. The story began when Sen. John Ensign admitted to having an extramarital affair with a former aide. What made the tabloid aspect more salacious, though, was that Ensign -- a strong crusader against separation of church and state -- is linked to a religious-right group that maintains an anonymous enclave in Washington, DC where a number of key politicians, including Sen. Ensign, reside while congress is in session. Dubbed "the family" or "the Fellowship," the unmarked building is also the venue for constant prayer, bible meetings, and now, it seems, political strategy brain storming, spin-control and campaign fund raising. Ensign's hypocrisy and un-masking has focused media attention on the "Christian mafia" and raised questions about what is taking place behind closed doors of the C Street house "in the name of the lord." -- Just eight days after the Ensign scandal made headlines, a political action committee with ties to the disgraced senator made a $5,000 contribution to the campaign of another "Fellowship" member and resident, U.S. Rep. Zach Wamp of Tennessee. Chattanooga Times Free Press reporter Andy Sher noted: "Ensign's political action committee, Battle Born PAC, contributed the money on June 24 according to Federal Election Committee records. Wamp's campaign received the contribution on June 29, his Tennessee Registry of Election Finance shows." One Wamp-connected operative , John Crisp refused to discuss the donation, other than to say that "This is important because of how hard Zach works... for the people of Tennessee." Others weren't so sure. State Democratic Party Chairman Chip Forrester questioned the timing and circumstances, telling reporters: "It would seem to me that if you were running for governor and you were running on a set of moral values that Zach Wamp seems to talk about, you'd be sort of reluctant to receive financial support from an admitted adulterer." Wamp also reported a $1,000 contribution from the Mint Political Action Committee linked to another religious right partisan, U.S. Sen. Jeff DeMint (R.-SC). "Numerous news accounts" link DeMint to the same C Street enclave as Wamp and Ensign, but the senator's office is now denying this. -- Somewhat off the radar at present is South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford, a Republican who is still working through his own imbroglio involving an adulterous affair with a South American woman. Sanford is a member of the "Fellowship" and reportedly received "spiritual counseling" at the C Street house. We also should not forget about US Rep. Chip Pickering (R-Miss.) now charged by his estranged wife with having an affair while residing at the "Fellowship" residence. -- How far will "Fellowship" residents and members go in avoiding media scrutiny, or even official inquiries by congress? One disturbing indicator is a July 22 piece on the Buzzflash web blog by Mark Karlin, referring to material unearthed by Jeff Sharlet, author of "The Family: The Secret Fundamentalism at the Heart of American Power." The latter writes: Family leaders consider their political network to be Christ's avant garde, an elite that transcends not just conventional morality but also earthly laws regulating lobbying. In the Family's early days, they debated registering as "a lobby for God's Kingdom." Instead, founder Abraham Vereide decided that the group could be more effective by working personally with politicians. "The more invisible you can make your organization," Vereide's successor, current leader Doug Coe preaches, "the more influence you can have." That's true -- which is why we have laws requiring lobbyists to identify themselves as such. But David Coe, Doug Coe's son and heir apparent, calls himself simply a friend to men such as John Ensign, whom he guided through the coverup of his affair. I met the younger Coe when I lived for several weeks as a member of the Family. He's a surprising source of counsel, spiritual or otherwise. Attempting to explain what it means to be chosen for leadership like King David was -- or Mark Sanford, according to his own estimate -- he asked a young man who'd put himself, body and soul, under the Family's authority, "Let's say I hear you raped three little girls. What would I think of you?" The man guessed that Coe would probably think that he was a monster. "No," answered Coe, "I wouldn't." Why? Because, as a member of the Family, he's among what Family leaders refer to as the "new chosen." If you're chosen, the normal rules don't apply. It's a statement that should concerns about transparency on C Street. Will "Fellowship" members charged with inappropriate behavior cover for each other? If so , the term "Christian mafia" becomes most appropriate given the "code of silence" or "omerta" being practiced on C Street. -- There are reports that some "Fellowship" operatives in high places are now seeking cover amidst the widening scandal and public attention. According to the Detroit News, for instance, U.S. Rep.Bart Stupak now claims that "he does little more than sleep in a room he rents there." Another "Fellowship" member, Rep. Joseph Pitts of Pennsylvania (a member of the Congressional "Values" Coalition that promotes religious right legislation on Capitol Hill) issued a statement that he does not reside at the C Street lair. For the public, all of this must raise concerns about what is taking place behind the doors at the C Street retreat and residence. Were powerful individuals like these representatives linked in such intimate and peculiar fashion to, say, a corporate interest group or international mission, there would be an outcry for an immediate congressional investigation. The C Street residence, however, enjoys the mantle of religious probity. Its members do not seem to be living up to that standard. Links to the C Street Scandal <http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2009/jul/21/tennessee-wamp-took-campaign-money-nevadas-ensign/?breakingnews> Tennessee: Wamp took campaign money from Nevada's Ensign State campaign finance records show U.S. Rep. Zach Wamp, R-Tenn., accepted a $5,000 contribution from U.S. Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., who lives in a Capitol Hill Christian fellowship house with Mr. Wamp. The contribution came 13 days after Sen. Ensign admitted to the world he had had an affair with a former staffer. Sen. Ensign's political action committee, Battle Born PAC, contributed the money on June 24, according to Federal Election Commission records. Rep. Wamp reported receiving the contribution to his gubernatorial campaign on June 29, according to his Tennessee Registry of Election Finance disclosure. http://blog.buzzflash.com/node/9044 "C Street" Cabal of Anti-Democracy Fundamentalist Senators and Reps Wouldn't Turn Over Child Rapist Among Them to Police? Kudos to Rachel Maddow for latching on to the captivating and chilling story about not just the lascivious and potentially illegal activities of some of the "C Street" Family, but -- more importantly -- focusing on their belief that they are chosen by God to lead and infiltrate our government. And she hasn't stopped pursuing this startling story, defying the normal news cycle of a nano-second of coverage unless it's Michael Jackson's death or a blonde white girl disappearing in Aruba. What gets lost in the disgusting details of Ensign's adulterous affair, Mark Sanford's (an associate member of the Family) lust for an Argentine, and former Congressman Chip Pickering's adulterous bonking on-site at the C Street "Christian fellowship house" is something that Maddow has repeatedly come back to: these men don't believe they are responsible to moral or governmental laws. If they deviate from the "righteous path," God is only testing their strength, because they are the ones divinely chosen to lead -- and it is weakness to succumb to remorse about one's "misbehavior." That is why Mark Sanford said he won't resign and compared himself to King David, who slept adulterously with Bathsheba and then had her husband killed. ** AMERICAN ATHEISTS ACTION ALERT http://www.atheists.org BUCKNER TO "INVOKE," CHALLENGE PRAYER AT COBB COUNTY COMMISSION MEETING TUES. 7/28 DR. ED BUCKNER, President of American Atheists has been chosen to deliver the "invocation" at next Tuesday's meeting of the Cobb County, GA. Commission.. The event will take place at the BOC Room, second floor, 100 Cherokee St. in Marietta, GA. at 7:00 PM. The venue is located off the square in Marietta. According to dictionaries, an "invocation" is an act "calling on a higher power." Ed Buckner was one of the plaintiffs in a 2006 law suit which challenged the practice of having sectarian prayer to open County Commission meetings. Those chosen to deliver the prayer reflected a sectarian, often evangelical Christian point of view. One result of the suit was that the court criticized this practice; since then, the County has been trying to keep prayer in government by randomly selecting people to deliver an "invocation." Buckner firmly opposes any and all prayer, whatever its denominational affiliation, at government meetings. There MAY be an informal, on-your-own social event/get-together following the Cobb County event. For more information, e-mail Ed Buckner at ebuckner@atheists.org or call 770-803-5353. WHO & WHAT: Dr. Ed Buckner, President of American Atheists, delivers a very special "invocation" at the Cobb County Commission Meeting. WHEN: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 at 7:00 PM WHERE: BOC Room, second floor, 100 Cherokee St. in Marietta, GA. at 7:00 PM. The venue is located off the square in Marietta. MORE INFO: For more information, e-mail Ed Buckner at ebuckner@atheists.org or call 770-803-5353. (AMERICAN ATHEISTS is a nationwide movement that defends civil rights for Atheists, Freethinkers and other nonbelievers; works for the total separation of church and state; and addresses issues of First Amendment public policy.) ** For Immediate Release New York City Atheists Inc. Press Contact: 212-879-2687 July 24, 2009 'FINAL EXIT DOCTOR TO SPEAK AT NYC ATHEISTS MEET Out on Bail, to Talk On Persecution of Network Helping Terminally Ill Awaiting Trial, Hounded Physician Defends Civil Rights Of Suffering Patients New York-Dr. Larry Egbert was sitting in his office on the third floor of a row house that is also the home of the Baltimore Peace Center when he heard a "tremendous hammering" on the door of the second floor below. "I went out and said, 'Stop yelling, the door is unlocked,'" he relates. "Four policemen, guns out, carrying bulletproof shields, charged up the stairs yelling, 'You're under arrest!'" It was the Baltimore homicide squad. They handcuffed him and made him sit handcuffed in his office for more than an hour while the Georgia police department, who had arranged with Baltimore police to make the arrest, instructed them on what to search for. "I was handcuffed in back when they told me to sit down and wait but with my bad back I couldn't sit that way so they 'kindly' unlocked my handcuffs and put them in front." Dr. Larry Egbert is 81 years old and teaches part-time at the John Hopkins School of Medicine. He got his undergraduate degree from Johns Hopkins and his M.D. degree from the University of Maryland Medical School. He has spent a lifetime in medicine, treating patients, teaching and doing public health work. "I wouldn't have been able to take on even one of those strapping cops, let alone four," he says."They took my computer and all my files. Then they took me down to central booking and put me into a private cell for 'protective custody' on the psychiatric ward. They agreed to bail if I would get myself to Georgia on Monday. So my wife put a lien on the house for $60,000 and bailed me out." His crime? Compassion and guidance. Dr. Egbert is the unpaid medical director of Final Exit Network, a nationwide volunteer network of people dedicated to helping terminally ill patients to choose how, and when, and where they will die. While the Network members do not actually assist the patient, they determine if the patient is indeed terminal and if everything medical has been attempted to cure them. Network members even try to dissuade the patient. But if the patient is adamant and resolute, the Network people offer compassion and guidance based on the principles in the book FINAL EXIT by Derek Humphry, which was a best seller as far back as the 1980s. Our Society's Contradictions As a specialist in anesthesiology, Dr. Egbert became interested, when he was living in Dallas, Texas, in how some states use anesthetics for executing criminals. "The so-called 'lethal injection' is actually an anesthetic in larger doses," he points out. "I got fascinated by this as a moral problem, and the Unitarians invited me to give a series of workshops on this and other medical/ethical dilemmas."Dr. Egbert points out the contradictions in our society, which has no compunctions about killing people in Iraq or Afghanistan, but considers it a crime to help a dying person achieve a peaceful demise. Homes of Volunteers Raided When Dr. Egbert was arrested on February 25th on charges of assisting a suicide, along with three other Final Exit Network volunteers in other sites, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) added charges under the Georgia RICO racketeering statutes. "Thus, Georgia initiated its plan to close down our organization," said Jerry Dincin, president of Final Exit Network, in a press release. "Their plan, as has become evident, is to bankrupt us by seizing our bank accounts and those of our affiliates," Dincin added. "They have also raided the homes of 14 of our officers and other members, confiscating their computers and records. They are also getting other police departments to bring similar charges against others of our volunteers, knowing that each person arrested must have their own lawyer, so that the legal charges will ultimately drain what is left of our money or what we might raise." He notes, however, that the Network is surviving with loans and donations by people who are outraged at the GBI's tactics. In addition, Derek Humphry, author of FINAL EXIT and a Network advisory board member, has established a legal defense fund. "Between the two efforts, we have been able to bail out our members and hire first-rate attorneys who are working for a reduced rate," Dincin reports. Salute Atheist Heroes Come on Thursday to the NYC Atheists meeting to hear from his own lips the remarkable, courageous story of Dr. Larry Egbert, who spent time in jail so that his suffering patients nationwide may receive the surcease of pain and the peaceful farewells they yearn for. Do not ask for whom the bell tolls; someday, it may toll for you. We Atheists do not have many heroes. When a genuine hero arises, let's let him know we care. Let's let Dr. Egbert know we appreciate his nobility and his sacrifices and his concerns for patients. Come, let us show our appreciation with a round of applause that he will remember when, and if, he has to go back to jail for us. EVENT SUMMARY WHAT: "Why Are Some States Harassing a Volunteer Network That Dying?" -a talk by Dr. Larry Egbert, medical director of Final E xit Network, Baltimore, Md. WHEN: Thursday, July 30, 2009 at 7 p.m. WHERE: SLC Conference Center 352 Seventh Avenue - (29th/30th) 16th Floor COST: We would appreciate a donation of $5 to help cover the cost of the conference room. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION: Jane Everhart Director of Communications New York City Atheists 212-879-2687 or Kenneth Bronstein President New York City Atheists 212-535-7425 --------------------------------------- New York City Atheists Inc. is a 501C not-for-profit educational association dedicated to the separation of church and state and to promoting the atheist lifestyle and values. All are welcome, including agnostics, humanists, freethinkers, skeptics and those who are questioning and seeking. ** WORTH NOTING... <http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5g_K_ED6fmSYZv8DUHBYybMYQOSQw> Malaysians debate whipping for beer-drinking model An Islamic court decision to have a Muslim model whipped for drinking beer at a pub has triggered controversy in Malaysia, a multicultural country where such convictions are extremely rare. Last week, a Sharia or religious court sentenced Kartika Sari Dewi Shukarno, 32, to six strokes of the cane and a fine of 5,000 ringgit (1,412 dollars) after she pleaded guilty to consuming alcohol in eastern Pahang state last year. Her conviction created a furore in the nation which is predominantly Muslim, but also home to large Indian and Chinese minorities. Alcohol is widely available in most parts of the country and Muslims are rarely punished for consuming it. <http://www.sltrib.com/ci_12893165?IADID=Search-www.sltrib.com-www.sltrib.com> 'De-baptism' helps atheists denounce faith Until last summer, Jennifer Gray considered herself "a weak Christian" whose baptism at age 11 came to mean less and less to her as she gradually lost faith in God. Then the 32-year-old medical transcriptionist from Columbus, Ohio, took a decisive step, one that previously hadn't been available. She got "de-baptized." In a type of mock ceremony that now has been performed in at least four states, a robed "priest" used a hairdryer marked "reason" in an apparent bid to blow away the waters of baptism. Several dozen participants then fed on a "de-sacrament" (crackers with peanut butter) and received certificates assuring they had "freely renounced a previous mistake, and accepted reason over superstition." <http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/intersection/2009/07/27/some-more-words-to-the-new-atheist-blogosphere-on-unscientific-america/> Some More Words to the New Atheist Blogosphere on Unscientific America As the two of us grapple with a book tour, other book projects, cross-country moves, and much else, we've been pretty hamstrung in our online replies to the "New Atheists." So this post will try to make up a bit of that slack. At the outset, let us say that we always knew Unscientific America would be controversial. Indeed, we're glad it has touched such a nerve in some quarters-to us, this underscores that its critique was much needed. ** RESOURCES FROM AMERICAN ATHEISTS * For membership information about American Atheists, send mail to info@atheists.org. Kindly include your name and postal mailing address. Ask for a free membership info packet. You may also visit http://www.atheists.org and click on the "Membership" navigation button. * For a free catalogue of American Atheist Press books, videos and other products, send mail to catalogue@atheists.org. Kindly include your name and postal mailing address, and request a copy of the AAP catalogue. You may also shop directly at http://www.atheists.org --click on the "Shopping" navigation button. * Current members in good standing of American Atheists may sign up for our free E-mail Discussion Group list, aachat. We have over 150 participants who discuss topics such as Atheism, religion, First Amendment issues, creationism and much, much more. Contact the Moderator, Ed Gauci through egauci@atheists.org . ** |
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