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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 04:10 PM
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Pastor appalled by treatment of atheists at the Creation Museum
Remember PZ and Co's field trip to the Creation Museum? The certainty of some (even here) that the atheist interlopers had to have been disruptive twits?

It turns out there was a pastor in their midst. Aaron Gardner went with the group just to see how the "other side" gets treated in a Christian venue. He didn't like the experience at all:

While I did not have a T-shirt (a symbol anyway) it was obvious that there was a distinctive way that we were being treated because of the shared identification. There were hateful glances, exaggerated perceptions, waxing surveillance by security, and anxious but strong ‘amens’ accompanying a lecture on “The Ultimate Proof of Creation” by Dr. Jason Lisle.

Is this how Christians treat people? Is this how we follow Jesus’ commandment to love our enemies and pray for those who persecute us? I cannot help but think that many Christians are fearful of atheists. It is a sort of xenophobia that runs along lines of faith and belief. What we tend to forget is that atheists, agnostics, and evolutionists are people too. If our attempt to preserve our belief means that we are treating these people like animals, are we really holding up principles that are based on a creation worldview?

There have rarely been times in my life that I have been ashamed of people that I call “brothers and sisters in Christ.” This was one of them. To be judged by people that share my beliefs because of the name tag I wore was appalling. We forget that Jesus not only commanded that we love our enemies and pray for them, but he also sought out people who were rejected by the religious order, embraced them, spent time with them, and partied with them. It was not a covert operation to get them to say the sinner’s prayer (which was not invented until the 20th century) and get them to change their ways. Jesus knew that spending time with them was like good medicine: those who are well do not need a doctor.

http://pastoraaron.info/2009/08/11/scarlet-a-for-a-day

http://pastoraaron.info/2009/08/14/atheism-at-the-creation-museum
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 07:20 PM
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1. "Is this how Christians treat people?"
Edited on Thu Aug-27-09 07:22 PM by laconicsax
Yes.

Thanks for the links--this needs play in R/T, even if it'll just descend into the typical 'real' Christian bullshit promoted by the usual players.
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:11 AM
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2. How old is this guy?
Has he not been paying attention all those years?
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 01:44 AM
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3. Probably just looking the other way.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 07:28 AM
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4. Bingo.
Just like the liberal believers on DU who insist that hatred of atheists either doesn't exist, or is only from a handful of extremists who aren't "real Christians," of course. I.e., the ones who are bashing you for this same topic in R/T.
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moggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 07:46 AM
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5. The tide of R/T crazy is rising again
Someone ought to plot its ebb and flow against planetary movements or something.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 11:45 AM
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8. Isn't it cute?
So predictable, so clueless.
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prostock69 Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 07:57 AM
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6. These "Christians" also don't realize
that many Atheists and Agnostics were once Christians. We know their "faith" inside and out, and in most cases, better than they do.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-28-09 08:26 AM
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7. the saddest part of this story is that
he will be ostracized and ridiculed for this by his own peers and parishioners.

get ready for the true reality check, mr. gardner.

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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-29-09 02:33 AM
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9. What the fuck EVER...
clap clap lick lick....WooHoo for the WooWoos.

Again, the jeebus junkies lose. Why? Because at ever turn they reinforce the fact that their imagination land shtick, is real knee slapper. Instead of allowing open discourse about their ID babble, they take the defensive temper tantrum approach and remove anyone that questions their "museum" or the "idea"(if you can call it that)of ID.

What we did that to people who went to the Natural History Museum(a real museum)? Just because we did not like them or their questioning.

Every time they through a fit like that, they lose and just bury themselves further in the shit then they already are.

creationism is bullocks and any one with half a mind knows that, if creationism is real, well then so is Alice's Wonderland.
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