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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:50 PM
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Oh FFS
The Vatican has condemned Halloween as "anti-Christian", CBN says similar things and oh yeah, witches infuse your candy with demons. Funny how Pagans and others are so evil and demonic, yet that doesn't stop Christians from engaging in rituals and celebrating holidays that were ripped off from them. :eyes:

And of course in less than a week the Xians will end their assault on Halloween and be full swing into the "War on Christmas" where they bludgeon anybody who dares to acknowledge that there is more than one fucking holiday between November 1st and January 1st.

Ok, rant off. :rant:
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 10:31 AM
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1. Oh Christ, thanks for reminding me about the WoC
Every year I have to hear the bitching, moaning, whining, and complaining from the less intellectually astute among us about how the evil liberals and atheists and abortionists are trying to make Christmas illegal and/or politically incorrect.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-31-09 06:23 PM
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2. They stole not only "pagan" ritual holidays...
but their entire jeudeo-xtian religion is a rip off of much older religions.
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:27 AM
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4. I'd seen the "demonic candy" column before, but the disapprobation
of All Hallow's Eve by the Vatican actually surprises me a bit. The RC Church generally strikes me as having had a little more open-mindedness about the thing we laypeople refer to as "fun", at least where mostly innocent costume-wearing and candy-eating is in the offing. It's hard for me to extrapolate actual witchcraft or Satan-worship from the pratice of "trick-or-treating". I usually see as many superheroes and soldiers and cartoon-characters as witches and vampires amongst the kiddies. And they are pretty much in it for the candy. Which they will eat themselves--not give to Lord Satan, or whatever. It strikes me that supposing there is a more treacherous, faith-disturbing indercurrent is a bit of, well....insecurity.

(I'm still wondering over the candy being prayed over by witches--do you suppose they do that year-round on the off-chance that the candy stays on the shelf for several months? Is it consecrated to Satan at the factory, or do the witches have a sort of "merchandizing crew" that gets sourced out to retailers to do the deed--no one's ever caught them at it, I'm sure. Is any candy really safe? Even crappy candy, like Necco wafers? Or is it all down the line, including Bit'o Honey's and Mary Janes and Sugar Daddy pops, and even those wrapped caramels that are really hard and no one eats? Even loose stuff like AllSorts and Canada mints on the off-chance those get desperately dropped in a plastic pumpkin by someone who totally did not buy enough Reeses cups and Hershey Miniatures? Even candy canes and those foil-wrapped coins from certain holidays later in the year? In order to be effective, you'd have to suppose that no candy, any time of year, was ever really safe. Unless you mail-ordered it from the Amish, or something. Also, is candy a gateway drug to blood-drinking in anyone's experience? I was a solitary practitioner of Wicca for a little while, and never hit anything harder than bourbon. Although I still indulge in the Hershey's miniatures, especially the Special Darks and Mr. Goodbars even now that I'm godsless. Oh, and the bourbon, too. And I still dress up like a Stevie Nick's-sort of witch this time of year. Wait....they could be on to something....

Er, no.)

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:20 AM
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3. Honestly...
I think the nutballs in the RC church and the fundagelical factions are getting more desperate as time goes by and they see their power/influence over others diminishing. They thought with that "Moral Majority" thing and the presidents/Congress critters they helped push on us they'd turn the US into a theocracy. But now they discover that after a few decades it's all reversing and people are not only refusing to buy their BS, but are in fact actively refuting it. Instead of simply fading into the woodwork with what hopelessly insane minions they have left they're still trying to recruit more and maintain some power with increasingly nutty crap like "demon infested candy" and "Halloween is evil". (And don't forget that gays want to recruit your children for perverted sex orgies...)

I'm rather enjoying the show, annoying as it can be at times.
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vixengrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:54 AM
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5. It strikes me as true--
take Pat Robertson (please!) as an example. Although CBN yanked the demonic candy lady's article from their site (an easily recognized bit of nonsense), Pat is still down as using the image of a noose to depict his feelings about how the Matthew Shepard Hate Crime Act impacts his ministry--he wants to say that it's Christians who are being persecuted by, presumably, elected legislators and the majority of voters who put them in, by adding protections for persons based on orientation or gender affiliation from violent crime--as if his own freedom of speech and religion weren't also protected under our laws--almost tipping his hand that propagating bigotry was part and parcel of his ministry. He would really only have an active issue with such a law if he actually condoned violence against people....

And I will not say whether he does or doesn't. But the end result is that he appears to be open to the possibility of a certain level of "hate" against the supposed "sinners"--and an ignorance of the why and how of the alleged "sin". He believes his furtherance of his ignorance should be valued more than the people he is ignorant about. And he is desperate to maintain that. And I think some observers will pick up on that.

I'm happy when someone like Dobson steps down from his influence with Focus on (Other People's) Family (ies)--probably because he knows when to quit. It's my hope that all this "moral majority" type stuff is quite behind us. It's not quite yet--but the sillier they get, the dumber they will look to sensible people.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 11:15 AM
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6. Thanks for reminding me...
Did anyone catch The 700 Club on Friday? When I saw the listing, it was almost over.

Their guest was that noted intellectual Sherri Shepherd, from "The Void"...er, I mean "The View."

She's on record as saying she does not know if the world is flat.

And she also thinks Xians were around in ancient Greece because "the Greeks threw them to the lions."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/04/sherri-shepherd-doesnt-ge_n_75292.html

With Pat Robertson and Sherri Shepherd on the same stage, I was afraid the universe might go into Ignorance Overload and cause the earth to spin right off its axis.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 01:30 PM
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7. Have they excommunicated Hitler yet?
No? Well, they can go fuck themselves.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-01-09 05:45 PM
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8. But he was an atheist!
Or so people keep telling me.....
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