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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:34 PM
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Oh My! Not an atheist, an Adulterous Woman drove prayer out of public schools and thus more violence
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 09:48 PM by Synnical
Actually, it was the United States Supreme Court, but easier to blame . .

And praying helped at the Columbine massacre? Not ducking and hiding?

Probably should have titled this, "For Your Entertainment"!

http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978040574&grpId=3659174697241980

Why an Adulterous Atheist Took God to Court
February 10, 2010 10:02 AM EST (Updated: February 11, 2010 07:40 PM EST)
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"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned, nor hell a fury like a woman scorned," is a line from The Mourning Bride, a play written by English playwright, William Congreve. Unfortunately, that line is also the basis for driving prayer out of public schools.

It was a woman who was responsible for the lawsuit that ultimately removed Bible readings from public schools. Unlike the little old woman who sued over hot coffee, money was not her ulterior motive. Revenge against a man, however, was.

Madalyn Murray O'Hair, a self-avowed atheist, filed a lawsuit that snowballed into the decline of morals and values running rampant in our public schools today. She filed this suit to demand retribution from a married man, a Roman Catholic married man, who refused to divorce his wife to marry Madalyn. He did not refuse to divorce his wife because he was a moral man; after all, he was an adulterer. He refused because it was against his religion.

My belief is that Madalyn, blinded by rage against the Catholics, decided to sue her son's school district to drive prayer out of schools forever. She succeeded, and at this point, I would normally say..."and the rest is history", but what Ms. O'Hair accomplished requires a more detailed explanation.

The Supreme Court ruled in Madalyn O' Hair's favor and this ruling duped parents of children in public school into believing the ruling was just because schools violated the separation of church and state amendment.

Little did anyone know at the time, that O'Hair's lawsuit, combined with the Abington School District's lawsuit resulting in banning public school prayer, would be indirectly responsible for the escalating violence among students today. If you do not know, students attending Abington High School bashed 16-year-old Eddie Polec's head in with baseball bats, back in November of 1994. The courts sentenced the worst of that bunch to a mere eighteen months in jail.

Since the Supreme Court ruled 'prayer in school unconstitutional' in 1963, America witnessed the assassinations of three great leaders, John and Bobby Kennedy, and Martin Luther King. Violent protests of the Vietnam War escalated as the decade of the 1960's came to the close. Men burned their draft cards; women burned their bras. Kids dropped out of school and went on drugs.

The people who grew up during that decade, who believed that if the Supreme Court ruled prayer unconstitutional it has to be right, raised children to believe that religion and school did not mix.

This misconception led to a more generalized notion that prayer was no good, period, and parents handed down this ideal to their children, as well. These children witnessed the massacres at Columbine and Virginia Tech. Many students, who escaped the slaughter, told how they hid and prayed the gunmen would not find them. (Surprisingly enough, Michael Moore did not relay this information in his mocumentary about Columbine.)

Those of us who believe in God and the power of prayer, recognize that if the courts had not banned prayer in schools, these tragedies may not have happened in the first place. Moreover, those of us who attended public school know that prayer could only help the train wrecks our public schools have become in America.

One school in Philadelphia, PA, fifteen minutes from the Abington High School, built a cement wall down the middle of the school, hoping to cut down on the 'violence between the students'. This particular high school went through twenty principals in two years because of the violence. In addition, the wall did not help.

Therefore, I suggest that instead of cement walls, we build walls between ourselves, and between those trying to wipe out God altogether, and begin praying in school again.

Further evidence of escalating violence is the fact that someone murdered Madalyn Murray O'Hair, the adulterous atheist who thought prayer was unconstitutional.



-Cindy in Fort Lauderdale

Edit: Typo


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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:54 PM
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1. Barb pulled that right out of her ass.
I just took a look thru my copy of the definitive (I hope!) biography: America's Most Hated Woman - The Life and Gruesome Death of Madalyn Murray O'Hair by Anne Rowe Seaman.

The "married Catholic" she's yammering about was William Murray. He and O'Hair had a long relationship when both were stationed in Europe during WWII (Look! Another atheist in a metaphorical foxhole!)

He did refuse to marry her and she was plenty pissed about it, but she also took Murray's name later.

According to the bio: her son Bill once opined that Madalyn felt wronged by two men, and God was a male, so that's why she became an atheist. Bill, of course, became a Baptist preacher and traded richly on his Mom's name and reputation. So we can take his opinion for what it's worth. Cough...

Barb also forgot that by the time of Murray v. Curlett, 39 states (IIRC) had already outlawed school prayer.

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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:46 PM
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2. She graduated from my alma mater.
She graduated from South Texas College of Law in Houston in 1952.

My dad graduated from there in 1951.

I graduated from there in 1985.



Those people have a real problem with correlation and causation.

The son who was a preacher had a daughter that he abandoned, named Robin, and she was being raised by Madalyn and her other son Jon, and all three of them were murdered.

Madalyn was also a patriotic American who served in the Signal Corps.

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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 10:44 PM
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3. Makes sense to me. You know, in Scandinavian Countries..(where God is hardly spoken of)...
...the violence in Schools, at work and at play perpetuates every section of Society.
It's pure hell in those ungodly hell-holes. :)
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 11:13 PM
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4. LOL!
This kind of crap used to piss me off, but now I just find it absolutely hilarious. These morons are so divorced from reality that their nonsense almost reads like a mad-lib.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 08:57 AM
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5. I Am Responsible For 9/11.
I picked up a rock on Sep 10th, 2001. Since the attack on 9/11 didn't occur til after I picked up the rock, it's clear that me and my rock are to blame.

My bad. Sorry.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 01:42 PM
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6. butterfly effect
dude, like, you picked up that rock and you, like, CHANGED THE WORLD, man
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 03:19 PM
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7. Yep. Just Like No Prayer In School Killed MLK.
When will people learn that two completely unrelated events are an imutable chain of cause and effect?

Shit! I just ate a Reese's Piece! That means another earthquake's on its way!
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