Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Talk about strange bedfellows! (Paging Leftish Brit...)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Science & Skepticism » Atheists and Agnostics Group Donate to DU
 
onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 12:27 PM
Original message
Talk about strange bedfellows! (Paging Leftish Brit...)
Irony! I recently saw the Sundance documentary about Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Its title was...The Fortune Hunter.

:rofl:

OTOH, it looks like one source for this story was the Daily Fail. Still seems legit, though.

I've read some of Ferguson's stuff, like "War of the World." IMO, he's sort of a British version of the no-godawful Gertrude Himmelfarb (wife of Irving Kristol and alleged mother of pitiful neo-con hack William Kristol).

Just as Himmelfarb only sees GOOD things with the Victorian era, ignoring 9-yr-old coal miners and 12-yr-old whores, Ferguson seems to believe British imperialism was the golden glue that held the world together. And the world has been falling apart ever since the British were kicked out of Afghanistan. And Singapore. And India. And Egypt. And Palestine. And probably Hong Kong...

Anyway, here's the dirt:

Harvard professor, hedge-fund millionaire, and "court historian for the imperial American hard right" Niall Ferguson is leaving his wife for a feminist filmmaker he met at the Time 100 party.

Sex! Scandal! Murderous Muslim clerics! This story has it all.

Ferguson (whose career highs include defending colonialism and parlaying books about the Rothschild dynasty into a lucrative Rothschild-endorsed hedge fund career) is divorcing his wife of sixteen years, former editor and Condé Nasty Susan Douglas, reports The Daily Mail.

Niall's new lovah: Somali-born filmmaker Ayaan Hirsi Ali. After meeting at a party for Time's 100 Most Influential People in the World, Niall and Ayaan launched into the most glamorously snobby, geopolitically thrilling forbidden love since Cleopatra and both Roman triumvirates...

Other people who come up in this story: Henry Kissinger and British historian Sir Alistair Horne (who knew of the affair before it went public), a member of Parliament, and seven other mistresses.




http://gawker.com/5466433/fabulously-snobby-divorce-scandal-of-the-week-niall-fergusons-fatwa-mistress-two+step
Refresh | 0 Recommendations Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 01:36 PM
Response to Original message
1. Thank you for your thoughtfully considering me...
Edited on Sat Feb-13-10 01:42 PM by LeftishBrit
but entering an eightsome with Niall Ferguson has never been high on my list of Valentines daydreams! Ayaan can have him!

He is nutty and arrogant at the same time, not a refreshing combination.

ETA: although I am very happy to say that I've never met him, I met a few of the clever (but far from wise), ambitious, up-and-coming types who studied certain subjects at Oxford in the Thatcherite 80s. I note he was there at around that time, and seems very much of the type. Reminds me of why I determinedly avoided such people...
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-13-10 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. Thanks! Never considred that eightsome!
Edited on Sat Feb-13-10 06:21 PM by onager
My eyes are watering just thinking of such a thing. Gack!

I posted this here because Hirsi Ali is a prominent atheist. And also, I thought it would be easier to get your attention.

You often have interesting information on British crackpots, as indeed you did this time! Thank you.

Not long ago I read Piers Brendon's massive (816 pages!) book, Decline and Fall of the British Empire 1781-1997. The allusion to Edward Gibbon in the title was intentional, and Brendon uses that other Decline and Fall throughout as a reference point.

In the Washington Post book review, Karl Mayer mentioned Ferguson as Imperialist Cheerleader:

(Brendon's) book is in no sense an apologia; it is history with the nasty bits left in. Not one massacre, civil war, famine, racist outrage, covert trick or egregious human-rights abuse is passed over.

His chronicle thus serves as a useful counterpoint to the generally upbeat accounts of Britain's imperial era, notably Harvard professor Niall Ferguson's well-written yet almost nostalgic encomiums.


http://search.barnesandnoble.com/used/product.asp?EAN=2693402893332&Itm=4
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 09:33 AM
Response to Original message
3. P.S. - and would you believe that Ferguson has been asked to be involved in planning school history
textbooks in the UK!

Yikes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-04-10 08:59 AM
Response to Original message
4. Ferguson's counterfactual approach to history is a load of arse
It's been rightfully torn apart and ridiculed in peer-review. But his intended audience is not other academics but a section of the public hankering after "the good old days" of empire but not wanting to hear about the nasty bits.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Dec 22nd 2024, 03:38 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Science & Skepticism » Atheists and Agnostics Group Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC