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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 11:25 PM
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Read a claim? Guess what, the burden of proof is on you!
Now don't go and try to shift the burden to the person making the claim! That's flat out dishonest!

:rofl:
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-20-10 11:51 PM
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1. That's remarkably common.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 12:00 AM
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2. where's your PROOF
that lizard aliens DON'T control the United Way????
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 01:06 AM
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3. They do...just not the lizard aliens you're thinking of. n/t
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 01:29 AM
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4. PROVE IT
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 12:49 AM
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5. And if archeologists discover an ancient town in Egypt...
It proves that the biblical account of Exodus is true!

Because maybe the town existed about the same time that Jericho was being sacked and destroyed (for the umpteenth time), which SOMEHOW means the Charlton Heston Exodus was also probably going on about the same time, sort of, maybe.

:banghead:

That thread was in LBN today.

I am sofa-king tired of that ploy. Whenever archeologists discover ANY DAMN THING in Egypt, the believers immediately try to hook it to the Exodus myth.

It really seems like a long stretch in this case. The new discovery apparently belonged to the Hyksos rulers, who never extended their rule down into Upper (Southern) Egypt.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 03:27 AM
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6. any serious biblical scholar
can see the egypt as a whole annihilates the old testament. Noah's flood, for instance; the egyptians don't seem to mention getting wiped out in the middle of their civilization. Combine that with the total lack of any evidence of large-scale hebrew existence in egypt, and it's pretty much screwed to hell.

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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 03:44 AM
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7. IIRC, most serious Biblical scholars know that the Bible is pure hokum.
They get their jollies in tracking the history of the myths as they moved from culture to culture.

The flood is typically explained away by one of the Egyptian creation myths--the one that starts with a flood. I had a social studies/science teacher in middle school (who was a certified crackpot) occasionally muse on the prevalence of flood mythologies as proof that the flood in Genesis was true.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:53 AM
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8. i have heard
(and this is entirely second hand, though I trust the source) that there is only a prevalence of flood myths in the middle east. In the areas where the ancient Hebrews were moving around, collecting stories from other, older religions. China doesn't have such a myth, nor do the maya or aztecs (again, I'm not 100% on this).

And an egyptian myth about a flood makes SENSE. Their entire culture revolved around yearly flooding.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 01:14 PM
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9. It's a selective kind of prevalence.
Basically, any culture that experienced regular/big floods has some flood myth. A handful Native American cultures in the Pacific NW have a flood story and likely dealt with glacial lake floods at the end if the last ice age.

Therefore, the Bible is true. It's like how the existence of Atlanta and the Civil War prove that Gone With the Wind is a true story.
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