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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 04:56 PM
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Any similarities?
Nazi Rally




Christian Revival



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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 05:59 PM
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1. Limitless, rabid, blind obedience to authority?
LOTS of similarity.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:57 PM
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2. DING DING DING!!!!
We have a winner :)
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:44 PM
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3. Psychic prediction - our Persecution Patrol won't like this.
But we'll enjoy it while we can. Thanks!

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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:49 PM
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4. I noticed the same thing
a while back.

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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 11:36 PM
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6. Wow - GrungeJesus in #2
"The fat ones balance out the two skinny ones!"
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:58 PM
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12. Loaves and fishes indeed... nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:48 PM
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14. A great moment in comedy!
"There were twelve disciples and one Christ!"

"ONE?!"
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 02:01 PM
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15. As you wish...
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Gamey Donating Member (421 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:59 PM
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5. What's the opposite? Keeping your hands to yourself?
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:10 PM
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10. In a way, yeah.
At some point any emotionally based group movement stops being about mutual support and understanding and becomes projective and domineering. I don't know when that happens or how to recognize it when it does. Nor do I know how to keep it from happening.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:12 AM
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7. meh
not calling godwin, or anything, but lots of things involve reaching upwards; it's just a natural human gesture :shrug:

There is no doubt, though, that there are creepy political rally-like similarities between religious concerts and authoritarian rallies. In the church that I grew up in, doing this would get some weird looks. We were Lutheran, so we wouldn't have actually SAID anything, but a lot of people would frown until you stopped.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:14 AM
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8. It's not just the hands up
When Fundie Xians go to a revival or Christian 'rock' concert, people do this arms lifing in air thing, caught in fervor, awash in the 'holy spirit' thing.

The guy could say anything on stage, and they'd do it.

Its a state of ultimate submission - in essence saying 'your will is my will'

Same thing at the NAZI rally - do you see the fervor in their faces?
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:38 AM
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9. Uh - Oh. Shakespeare quote..
Edited on Fri Sep-03-10 11:40 AM by rrneck
Hamlet:
Why then 'tis none to you; for there is nothing either good or
bad, but thinking makes it so. To me it is a prison.

On edit, the you does not refer to realisticphish in particular...
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 12:41 PM
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11. Let me add this is not a broad brush attack
Just the "revival" type Christians who go to concerts and revivals, lifting up their 'hearts' (which are hands for some reason) and awash in the ecstasy of fervor.

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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 01:00 PM
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13. no, no i totally get it
I just always anticipate NTS Christian attacks :D
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 08:28 PM
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16. The Nazi's did have...
snazzy uniforms.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 10:46 PM
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17. Also this...
A Jeremy Clarkson quip on Top Gear, warning that it is impossible to EVAH look cool while riding in the back of a convertible: "The only person who ever looked good in the back of a convertible was Adolf Hitler."

Be that as it may, Adolf usually rode (or stood) shotgun, as shown in the photo below.

Information No Normal Person Would Ever Know Or Want To: That car is a very rare 3-axle Mercedes-Benz G4 (W31) Galende. Only about 75 of those monsters were ever built. Two were custom-made hardtops only used in Hitler's touring entourage - one mounted a complete portable broadcasting station and the other just carried Der Fuehrer's luggage.

Mercedes-Benz thought the G4 might go into production as a luxury "field staff car" for high-ranking military officers - sort of a prehistoric Hummer H2. A few were even fitted with machine guns. But also like the H2, it was far too heavy, thirsty and fragile to ever work as a military vehicle.

If the G4 looks familiar and you are Of A Certain Age - it's the car you saw going through the camp gates every week, in the opening credits of "Hogan’s Heroes."


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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-03-10 11:12 PM
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18. the whole "nazi" thing aside
that is a sweet car
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