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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 02:32 AM
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U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey

Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons are among the highest-scoring groups on a new survey of religious knowledge, outperforming evangelical Protestants, mainline Protestants and Catholics on questions about the core teachings, history and leading figures of major world religions.

On average, Americans correctly answer 16 of the 32 religious knowledge questions on the survey by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life. Atheists and agnostics average 20.9 correct answers. Jews and Mormons do about as well, averaging 20.5 and 20.3 correct answers, respectively. Protestants as a whole average 16 correct answers; Catholics as a whole, 14.7. Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons perform better than other groups on the survey even after controlling for differing levels of education...



http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 02:37 AM
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1. If I'm a Jewish atheist, what does that make me?
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 06:11 AM
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2. My brother.
I'm a Jewish atheist too.

--imm :hi:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 07:38 AM
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4. Me three!
Seems to be alot of us types floating around....:)
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:16 AM
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5. Wait, they let Jews in here.
You gotta be frickin' kidding me.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:17 AM
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6. there goes the neighborhood
:(
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 11:33 AM
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9. Watch what you say, mister
Remember we control all the banks, made 9/11 happen AND sank the Titanic. Clearly you shouldn't mess with TEH JOOOOS!!! :rofl:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 12:34 PM
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11. LOL
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 05:28 PM
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14. .
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 12:44 PM
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22. Oh speaking of which..You'll LOVE this
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 09:30 PM
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25. "we control all the banks"
brother atheist- could you float me $5,000? :)
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 01:00 AM
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36. I'll give you 400 Quatloos.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 02:05 AM
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29. And me
And the British Leader of the Opposition if it comes to that.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 06:14 AM
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3. If you can add Mormon to that moniker, you'd be a Theological Genius!
:)
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 01:40 PM
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20. The poll concerns religion, so go with atheist, if the poll concerned ethnicity, then you would go
with Jewish.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 03:14 PM
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34. I don't see Jewish as being an ethnicity
Since anyone can become Jewish.
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 04:29 PM
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35. I asked my Jewish step-brother about that, once
back when he was my step-brother. He says being Jewish is both an ethnicity and a religion. You can join the religion, but you have to be born into the ethnicity.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 09:49 AM
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31. I'm pretty sure that puts you in charge of CNN. nt
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 10:32 AM
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7. Some people will probably be surprised at this
those people haven't really paid attention. Most atheists have looked into religion far deeper than their theistic fellows; often, that depth of analysis is part of the reason they rejected their church.

I would say that upwards of 80-90% of Christians have never read more than a quarter of the Bible
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amyrose2712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 11:09 AM
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8. Yes, my sister argued...
Edited on Tue Sep-28-10 11:10 AM by amyrose2712
that they only THINK they know. Only through studying Strong's Concordance as read by pastor of The Shepherd's Chapel know the TRUE word of Yahweh. Who she lovingly nicknamed Yah.:banghead: :banghead:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 11:36 AM
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10. Here's what I find interesting.
I've never really read the Bible. Read a children's illustrated book of Old Testament stories. Watched The Ten Commandments and have done more than my share of Passover Seders (some very orthodox and traditional most not) and I STILL know some of the Bible better than some "practicing" Christians. Ran into someone on FB who did not KNOW that the Last Supper was a passover seder..uh whut?
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 04:42 PM
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13. I met a teacher who was a sub at a Catholic school...
This teacher had questioned her class about why they thought Jesus was in the synagogue when he was twelve. They made several wild guesses and she revealed it was to prepare for his Bar Mitzvah. "You mean he was Jewish?"

The next day the teacher was called in to the Mother Superior's office. "I've been getting a lot of calls from parents. Did you tell the students that Jesus was Jewish?"

"Well, that's the truth, isn't it?"

"That's the problem. Now I'm stuck with having to explain that to all the parents."


--imm
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:24 AM
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16. Hahahaha
That is an awesome account.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 10:24 PM
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26. good thing she didn't note...
that he wasn't a blonde :rofl:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-10 12:36 PM
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12. You know what's funny
If people read the Bible in-depth, they may come out as an atheist. That's how many came to be.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 10:42 AM
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19. That drove the final nail into the Irish Catholic church's coffin
for my mother, who finally got around to reading it in her late 60s. She was furious, "That's what I've been told is the word of god, what I've been told to hold in high reverence? That?" It was pretty funny. As long as she obeyed the admonition of the church to leave the reading to the priests, she could almost buy some of the message, although she claimed to be an agnostic. Once she read it for herself, she realized the emperor (and his priests and bishops and all the way up to the pope) wasn't wearing any clothes and never had been.

It was a thing of beauty.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 10:25 PM
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27. the bible...
is seedier than a harlequin novel :)
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 04:23 AM
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15. The various threads elsewhere on DU about these survey results...
have borne that out. One reply in particular tried to brush aside the results as the quiz just being about "trivia" rather than true theology. Pretty damn funny seeing them sputter when confronted with evidence that evil, foul atheists actually know more about their holy book than they do.

(Of course I've been in discussions with Christians who, when faced with my biblical knowledge, run away with a "The devil can quote scripture too!")
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 07:25 AM
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17. haha
"who is job?" is fairly important, I would think, theologically.

Primarily in the sense that one has to defend God letting Satan fuck with Job's life because he hadn't invented dog tracks yet, and still wanted to bet.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 10:27 PM
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28. "who is job?"
there is only one Job, and he wears turtlenecks and makes kick ass computers (which bear a satanic emblem :) )
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 10:17 AM
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18. But...but you just don't understand the intricacies of theology!
:rofl:

Those excuses were hilarious. "It's only trivia." "It was only a 65% vs 50% split." "Catholics don't read the Bible." Bla-bla-bla.

ANYTHING to avoid the awful truth! "W-a-a! The Evil Atheists won the game in our own ballpark!"
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-10 02:09 PM
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21. Aye, the Courtier's Reply was fairly obvious (nt)
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 01:04 PM
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23. Yeah, Mr. Comparative Religious Studies
was fun to play with for about a day.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-01-10 10:30 PM
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24. I took the test...
Got 25 right. The only ones I didn't know were the first 4 books of the bible and a couple other of the first 5 questions.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 07:19 AM
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30. I knew all of them except the Great Awakening one
What surprised me was that only 71% knew that Jesus was born in Bethlehem. You'd think that people would get that one from Christmas carols, even if they had no other contact with religion.
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 12:59 PM
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32. The G.A. is mostly a regional American obsession, I think.
Its enthusiasts are still nostalgic for that eighteenth-century "wave of Gawdliness" that "swept over America." (I often hear them ranting about it on Xian right-wing radio stations.)

Except it mostly swept over New England. And there wasn't a "United States of America" yet, since the First G.A. took place fairly early in the century.

Where I grew up, near the Appalachian Mountains in the South, it was very different around that same time.

Many settlers in that part of the country migrated to get away from the Northeastern theocrats, especially those in New England. A region where Thomas Jefferson once noted, "no mind beyond mediocrity dares to develop itself," thanks to the iron grip of local Xian orthodoxy.

Churches seem to have been a fairly low priority down there on the Southern frontier. After stuff like not starving to death and not being massacred by justifiably pissed-off American Indians.

The area was religiously served by "circuit riders" - itinerant preachers who rode from one churchless community to another on horseback.

The diaries of those preachers often complained about the drunkenness, lust, profanity and general lack of religious interest among the locals. e.g., the preachers observed that, when they performed weddings, many of the brides were already obviously pregnant.

So IMO, at best it was a Mediocre Awakening...

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charlie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 02:29 PM
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33. Mediocre, and a pain in the ass
As they all are. I consider it a misfortune of my life to live through another one of their god-blighted eruptions.

They're lucky an interlude between Great Awakenings allowed them the lucidity to realize Jefferson and Madison's notions of separation saved their dumb asses from Anglican or Congregationalist States of America. Which, of course, carried no weight when they "awakened" again and vexed Jefferson for being an infidel. Ingrateful pinheads.
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