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Tobin S. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 06:57 PM
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I don't have a problem with people who think that they are going to heaven
I just have a problem with people who think I'm going to hell.
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 12:35 AM
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1. I have a problem with people who think they're going to heaven.
Edited on Tue Oct-05-10 12:36 AM by laconicsax
Nothing whitewashes suffering like believing that there's a reward after you die. That and there's no description of heaven I've seen that isn't wretched in itself.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 01:44 AM
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2. I don't have that much problem even with the latter...
I do have a problem with people who think that secularists like me are What is Wrong with Society, and especially those who attempt to to impose religiously-based social conservativism into law.

I would estimate that we in Britain have about one per cent of what you have in America with regard to that sort of thing - and it's STILL too much!
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 07:32 AM
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3. I have a problem with people insisting not only that I'm going to hell
but that I have NO morals because I don't believe everything that was written in some damn book.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:39 PM
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4. whenever I am told I am going to hell...
I quote Billy Joel- "I'd rather laugh with the sinners than die with the saints, the sinners are much more fun"
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-05-10 05:48 PM
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5. GOOD ONE, Tobin!
:thumbsup:
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ceveritt Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 04:13 AM
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6. My problem with these believers in mythology ...
... has nothing to do with their beliefs.

They can choose to believe what they want. And then they can condemn me to hell.

My point to them is always, "You do not know that. You might have faith in it. But none of us truly will know until we die. Heaven and hell, or whatever, cannot be known until one arrives, or does not.

My problem with these people is the endless proselytizing. I do not try to convince them to become atheists. One's religion (or lack of same) is one's own business. Or should be. Vigorously trying to convert a person to another's religion is presumptuous, and the very height of bad manners.

Yet they persist.

One night I had a neighbor launch on me about how wonderful life was going to be; she's a Jehovah's Witness. She said everyone would be happy, have a plot of land and a home and a partner. Normally, such behavior makes me want to defenestrate the offender. This time, I just waited till she'd finished and said, "I wish you a lot of luck with that."
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 07:21 AM
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7. Hm. Wherever I go you pop up...
I'm going to have to keep tabs on you, Mister.

(Note to sell, next time you re-arrange Tobin's furniture plant cameras in the house.)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-06-10 03:38 PM
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8. I generally don't have any problems with such people...
...though I think the their idea devalues life because it makes it nothing more than a rehearsal for the afterlife.
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