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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-21-10 06:32 PM
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Godless Britain!
A bishop has expressed strong disapproval of the religious decline in my country:

"Morality and religion have collapsed to a degree that has never been known in any Christian country!"

Perhaps not too surprising, given the following description of the Prime Minister:
"a man whose life reflects a genial paganism, who regarded all creeds with the impartiality of indifference, and who looked upon all religion as a local accident and as the result of hereditary influences" ... "a sceptic as regards religion"


Tut tut.


Of course, Bishop Berkeley's comments were made in 1738; and the Prime Minister whose scepticism was recorded by his official biographer, was Sir Robert Walpole, our first Prime Minister, who served from 1721 to 1742.


Evil British secularism, *and* moral panics about it, seem to have a long history. (Though just a few decades before this, there had been wars fought about religion, not to mention the Puritan era with its genuine war on Christmas.)

Incidentally, a British schoolchild is said to have once written an essay on 18th century religious indifference: "In the 18th century Englishmen neglected their religion. They neglected cricket and football...". Now many English people would regard THAT as a SERIOUS form of godlessness!
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 05:53 AM
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1. If only it were so!
Although we do seem to be well on the way.

We had some Jebus whackjobs at the door the other week; they wanted to talk to me and "help". I told them they were mentally ill and far more in need of help than we are. I added that if they came back I would call the police (we are an official police-approved No-Cold-Calling-or-Doorstep-Selling area.) They took it very well so I suspect I wasn't the first.

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 07:26 AM
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2. Well, look at what happened to Britain since that bishop wrote.
You lost your empire! Neener neener!
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