How they see us: "You may be a fundamental atheist if..."

[Modem Butterfly]

Completely and utterly moronic, but instructional nonetheless. This genius has spent a great deal of time and effort venting his atheist anxiety. Handy categories too!

http://www.tektonics.org/parody/fundyath.html

[beam me up scottie]

1. What's wrong with this?

#15. You call a view held by less than ten percent of the American public "common sense".

And?

[onager]

2. Refuted by Onager's Corollary...

"If millions of people believe a dumb idea, it's STILL a dumb idea." :sarcasm:

:hi:

(I stole that from somebody else, but can't remember who.)

I just took a quick look at that thing. The "history" section alone could keep me busy for 2 years refuting their propaganda. Somebody has a LOT of time on his/her/its hands.

Handy compilation of Standard Xian Whining, though. Thanks!

[beam me up scottie]

3. ROFL!

"Onager's Corollary" !!!
:rofl:
I'm adding that to my supplement for the woo woo credo.

[Modem Butterfly]

4. That guy has a serious problem

I wish he would devote some of his copious time to defining a fundamentalist atheist. What the fuck is that?

[BiggJawn]

16. Damn! Beat me to the punch!

Even though my version goes "If 6,000,000 people believe a stupid thing, it's STILL a stupid thing."

[SlackJawedYokel]

19. I first read something it on Bloom County

when Opus, while in search of his mom, observed a million of his cousins quietly watch an airplane fly over their little bit of the South Pole and as it passed overhead all of the penguins tipped over backwards on their tushkies instead of turning their heads.
(paraphrased)
"A million penguins doing a dumb thing doesn't make it not dumb."

Cletus

[Modem Butterfly]

20. I read a "real life" account of what you describe...

...I've also read that said account was just an urban legend. In any event, I would give my eye teeth to see that! It would blow Panda Cam out of the water for cuteness...

[YankeyMCC]

5. What a great thinker...:eyes:

"You spend hours arguing that a-theism actually means "without a belief in God " and not just " belief that there is no god" as if this is a meaningful distinction in real life."

He might as well say "You're an intelligent person." as one of his signs of being an atheist.

Crap, I don't even have time to waste reading all these things...this yo-yo is real nut-job. Or perhaps he's very afraid.

[Modem Butterfly]

6. I think he's scared

There's something about someone who is free of religion that just scares the crap out of some folks.

[onager]

7. That one claim was really funny

Well, a lot of his claims are funny in a bizarre way. But since I've just been there, one that jumped out at me was:

"You claim Christians burned the Library at Alexandria, but when you are shown that this was impossible..."

As usual, there's a LOT of obfuscation and wishful thinking connected to that claim. What is indisputable is that an order went out in 391 CE for all pagan sites in Alexandria to be razed to the ground, and Xian mobs certainly carried out that order. Part of the library was attached to the pagan site known as the Serapeum, the temple of Serapis. Which was burned, flattened, and had a Xian church built atop its former site.

Anyone who needs a good laugh can google the subject and have fun watching the Xians spin themselves into the ground.

They pull out all the usual tricks: misdirection, arguing off-topic, blaming it on the Muslims, blaming it on the pagan Romans (under Julius Caesar), and all the rest of their usual hijinx.

Oh, and of course, trying to minimize the damage as much as possible, the same way they do with the Inquisition.

("An Official Scholar-Type Guy who worked for the Church investigated those ridiculous claims, and guess what? It turns out only 27 people were killed during the Inquisition, and that was purely by accident!")

In this case, they claim the Library had already been destroyed, apparently by unknown forces. Maybe the aliens did it.

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

12. Holy CRAP

"An Official Scholar-Type Guy who worked for the Church investigated those ridiculous claims, and guess what? It turns out only 27 people were killed during the Inquisition, and that was purely by accident!"

Someone said THAT? :wow:

Tell me again how it is any different from Holocaust denial.

[onager]

13. I'm exaggerating, but not by much

There are several "Inquisition-denial" claims floating around, all of them claiming way fewer people arrested/killed than is generally mentioned in standard histories.

I generally get a mite suspicious when I see the exact same data...sometimes in the exact same words...quoted on websites I know to be run by Xian apologists.

I tracked down one of these claims, and found that the originator really did get his figures from the Catholic Church...an organization that is surely neutral on the topic of the Inquisition. :sarcasm:

Similarly, if you criticize Pope Pius XII, a bunch of Catholic apologists will immediately start screeching that Pius personally saved 80 or 90 or 100,000 Jews from the Nazis.

In that case, the data came from a Catholic scholar who arrived at his figures this way:

1. He took the total number of European Jews who survived the Holocaust.

2. He subtracted those known to be saved by the Danes, people like Schindler, etc. etc.

3. All the rest who survived, HE JUST CREDITED TO THE POPE!

Sorry for shouting, but I'm amazed that even the most desperate apologist could accept that sort of dishonesty.

Of course, there are also stories about Communists and atheists saving Jews during WWII. But for some strange reason, we never seem to hear those in the mass media.

[phantom power]

8. Interesting, he thinks atheists burn bibles.

Anybody out there been to a good bible-burnin' lately?

[progressoid]

9. Oh, sure

And every chance I get, I throw feces at churches.

[rexcat]

15. I can't say I burn books...

but there have been a number of stories in the newspapers over the years stating many a church group has burned books, and even records. Certain church groups have been in favor of censorship for a very long time (that would include the catholics, protestants, muslims, jews and just about ever other religious group cult out there). I can't recall any Humanist or Atheist group advocating censorship or burning books.

[phantom power]

18. Lots of projection among the fundies.

Atheists are "fundamentalists."
Atheists burn books.
Science is a religion too.

No projection there. Nosiree.

[progressoid]

10. 274???

Americans really need to get some better hobbies.

Sheesh.

[Book Lover]

11. Stupid and illogical

When you watch a punt returner run a 93 yard touchdown, you marvel at what evolution has done for the human race. But when someone gets cancer, you blame God for it.

For the record, I have never blamed any deity when anyone I knew has become ill.

[BiggJawn]

17. Or......(my version)

When a Physician who has spent his LIFE studying and learning how to combat a disease defeats that disease in your loved one, you credit "God" with the win, NOT the Doctor....

Or when 278 people die in an air crash, but one 3-y-o survives, it's a "Miracle". Never mind an explanation about the 278 who didn't "get a Miracle".....

[Taxloss]

14. That reads like someone attempting to understand their own belief system,

not a "critique" of atheism. It also appears to be written by someone who does not own a dictionary in which they can look up "fundamentalism".