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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:10 PM
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Enterprise Looks To Future (Season 5: the founding of the Federation)
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Enterprise Looks To Future

Manny Coto, the executive producer of UPN's Star Trek: Enterprise, told the Chicago Tribune that he wants to explore the founding of the Federation if the ratings-challenged series makes it to a fifth season next year. That's a big "if," Coto told the newspaper: "I haven't spoken to anyone the performance, so I'd be talking in the dark. I don't know if they're happy or not. It's still pretty much up in the air ."

Enterprise's fate won't be announced until May, the newspaper reported. But UPN head Dawn Ostroff told the newspaper: "We've gotten great feedback from fans. … The show is at a great place , and we're very happy with the ideas and execution."

Enterprise reportedly has fewer viewers in its new Friday 8 p.m. timeslot, but UPN is earning higher ratings on that night than it did before Enterprise moved. As for the show's creative direction this season, which has included a guest stint by Brent Spiner, Coto said: "We consciously set out to make this season a real prequel, to really embrace the prequel concept. We've got ... great stories coming up, and I think there's a whole season's worth of great stuff, the founding of the Federation."

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire2005/index.php?category=0&id=30069
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Gothic Sponge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 04:59 PM
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1. Is Enterprise still on the air? (sarcasm)
I gave up on the show last season. I'm a big Trekkie, but i never cared for Enterprise.
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Khephra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 05:10 PM
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2. Neither do I
I'll probably catch them all in repeats down the road, but I can't say that I'm watching it now.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 06:31 PM
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3. I've seen 5 of the last 6 and they weren't half-bad
Especially the ones with Brent Spiner.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:42 AM
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16. This season has mostly rocked...
The two trilogy stories were both great, particularly the "Rise of the Vulcans" arc that so blatantly hammered the Bush administration. I thought last season was mostly great, too.

I like this low-tech Trek a lot. The story lines haven't been incredible, nor even the writing, but the cast are all great actors. Even poor Anthony Montgomery < http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0599719/ >, who is a step beyond "hailing frequencies open" when it comes to tokenism.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 12:17 AM
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4. It is a bit better this season than previous seasons.
n/t
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:27 PM
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5. I haven't watched ST:E since the second episode...
HOPING that it would fail.

And I watched every single ST:TNG and ST:V episode.

The second they get a Star Trek series set in the future again, as it always should be, maybe with a new crew for the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-F (:D) then I'll be a loyal watcher once more!
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 07:29 AM
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6. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...(snort) Whuh? "Enterprise"?

zzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...
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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 02:18 PM
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7. don't worry, it is just a bad dream... nothing more.
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 04:53 PM
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15. Tell us how you really feel, Enraged Ape! :-)
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 07:51 PM
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8. I must be the only person in the world who enjoys Enterprise...
Edited on Fri Dec-31-04 07:51 PM by Tom Yossarian Joad
Granted, it lacks the rubber monsters of TOS and the soapiness of DS9, but I like the feel of it because it does remind me quite a bit of TOS.



Happy New Year!
:party: :toast:

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rogue emissary Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 11:20 PM
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9. Thankfully you're not the only one.
:-) Also, the people that hate the show like to remind us how much they can't stand Enterprise. Of course, I'm a DS9 fan and can't shut up about it.

:toast:
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 04:23 AM
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10. But there is SO MUCH about it that's just bollocks...
The fact that the NX-01 resembles the Akira class so much. I mean, how can two designs, 200 years apart, be almost identical??? It boggles the mind!

Not to mention all the serious issues with the episodes, like having the Borg "discovered" on earth, or a Dauntless class ship appear in a futuristic battle involving the Enterprise-J...when the Dauntless Class was an alien ship parading as starship just to trick the Voyager crew! :crazy:

It boggles the mind!
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rogue emissary Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 04:17 PM
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11. Thank you, for so eloquently making my point.
:hi:
Judging by the concerns that you list. If Enterprise boggles your mind, the rest of the Trek must have blown it up. :evilgrin: Hell, you mustn't be able to watch any Sci-Fi on TV, if those little inconsistent bother you. I could give answer to your questions, but I doubt they'd satisfy you.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 07:01 PM
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12. Pssh...
they're not little inconsistencies.

give me your answers, please :)
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rogue emissary Donating Member (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 12:47 PM
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13. Enjoy
:)
Simple, Starfleet Designers aren't that original. That answer also explains why you would see that fake Starship. There have only been three ships that were really unique designs IMHO. (Defiant, Oberth and the Wells Timeship) The same thing also happened in the last TNG episode, which had a ship that was identical to a 200+ year old design.

The crew of Voyager took detailed scans and combed over that fake ship so Starfleet has the design. If Voyager didn't make it back to earth, I'd agree that we shouldn't see the design in the future episodes. Just because it was fake, doesn't mean Starfleet wouldn't use that knowledge, or was already working on the design at some stage.

Finding the Borg makes sense only if you've seen, and accept First Contact as fact. I thought all the wreckage from that exploding Borg Sphere would have disintegrated in Earth's atmosphere. Watching the footage of the real world Columbia disaster changed my mind. If you wonder why it's not mentioned in later episodes, We've seen them forget key information in other series. Before the first official meeting between the Borg and 1701-D, it's established that the Borg destroyed two Bases. The 1701-D crew investigated the loss of those Bases. They forgot to bring that evidence up when Q sent them to confront the Borg in that later episode.

I'm not trying to hold Enterprise to another standard. I just give it the same leeway as I allow the rest of the franchise.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-05 03:24 PM
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14. Bollocks!
I accept none of that. Yeah those are "interesting" explanations, but they don't do it for me.

'Enterprise' is shite. :P

When I think of all the perfectly good money put into this series that could have been put into a great NEW series set in the FUTURE, I want to cry. :cry:
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-05 10:46 AM
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17. isn't all Star Trek set in the Future?
I mean, isn't that the premise? Personally, I really like the idea of a show that takes place prior to the original series.

I'm not a dedicated fan of Star Trek, but I tend to give each show its chance to reel me in. I watched TNG all the way through, but with the subsequent shows, didn't manage to get excited enough to not want to miss them. I really liked DS9, though. I wasn't that impressed with Voyager. The cast never clicked for me. I think Enterprise is a much better effort, and I enjoy most of the episodes I've seen, but still, it hasn't sucked me in. I did catch one of the Spiner episodes and I was impressed with it.

I don't think all the minor continuity details detract from the show. And believe me, for people who aren't diehard trekkies, the examples I've read above are all pretty minor. What makes a ST show work or not is not how religiously they follow continuity or canon, but how well the cast works together, how well the show is written and how well the audience can connect with the characters. You have all three, and any number of minor continuity errors are completely forgivable.

Major continuity errors are completely different, of course.
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 12:30 AM
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19. I like it quite a bit
I don't understand the controversy.

But then again, I can't figure out why Galactica fans are so uptight about the new series.
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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 02:37 AM
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18. I agree, and I like Enterprise
Before all you Enterprise haters attack, let me say that I started watching the series at the end of the last season. The Xindi arc was very interesting and entertaining. Since then, I have been a fan. The series offers a positive view of humankind's future, something which is hard to believe given our current state.

As for the haters, if you judge the series based on the first few seasons, give it another try. I cannot comment on the the early material. The more recent presentations have been quite good.

Many of the post have been concerned with irregularities or contradictions. This may be true of the first episodes, but the later material is consistent with Star Trek canon and offers no more an irrational universe than any of the other series. Lets face it, Star Trek violates most of modern physics, relativity and quantum mechanics.

The series is in a unique position to fill in the gaps from prior series. Telling the story of the formation of the Federation, a better glimpse of the Orion and Andorean cultures, Vulcan history etc It would be a loss to the genre to have this series die so early.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-09-05 08:32 PM
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20. Pity. They ought to make the present infinitely more watchable first.
Edited on Sun Jan-09-05 08:33 PM by HypnoToad
It's dead. Trekked out. Coto is only an exec. I tried watching season 4 and it's just as stale. Just a different soundtrack, it seems.

And since when do prequels work in practice anyway, of that I'd ask Berman, Lucas, and all of these other nimrods that obviously have nothing better to do?
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