ST Enterprise is getting hot

[FM Arouet666]

The last episode was very good, in my opinion. I was thinking that the high command sounded more Romulan than Vulcan, and the end verified my concern. Not to mention that we have Vulcan lore from the past. T'pau is featured in the most recent episode as a young rebel, but all you TOS fans will recall that she is the officiator of Spock's marriage ceremony in Amok Time. ST Enterprise is becoming an outstanding series, true to ST canon, and with outstanding plot lines. The next episodes will explore the Andorian race, which was introduced in TOS. I agree, this is more space opera than Sci Fi, but necessary to create a ST universe for which to engage.

For those that are negative, give the series another shot, the last arc was outstanding. I have watched for only the latter part of season three, so I cannot defend the early material. You might be surprised.:evilgrin:

[Enraged_Ape]

1. I can't watch that idiot Tommy Lee Jones impersonator

Lord, how I've tried to watch and love that show, but that crap actor that plays Trip or Trey or whatever his name is is just unbearable. He has the worst Southern accent I've ever heard on television, and that includes the time I saw Jane Seymour try to fake it.

And I used to love Quantum Leap, but Bakula is either miscast in this or poorly written or directed. He constantly has the facial expression of someone who hasn't had a bowel movement in a week.

[Endangered Specie]

2. Yeah, it will be interesting...

I just hope they don't violate TOO much canon.

Remember, no Human has seen an actual Romulan or knew that they are related to Vulcans until TOS.

That of course doesn't mean they can't be seen onscreen, but Id better not see Archer and a romulan in the same room!

[FM Arouet666]

4. Absolutely

Current writers have taken far too many liberties with Star Trek canon. I can accept almost any distortion of established physical law, but violate canon, and you will pay. :evilgrin:

[Deja Q]

7. Berman started wilful violation in 1994... ignorantly had since TNG day 1

Yet, over 10 years later, the same bozos continue to bury the franchise so deep into the ground that it's about ready to pop out of the ground in Canberra. :eyes:

[coloradodem2005]

3. I think that it is getting substantially better this season than previous

I don't think it was true to cannon the first three seasons, but this season it has been. This arc with the vulcans has been one of the most interesting that I have seen from that show. It is becoming more like a Star Trek series. It is going in a really good direction.

[FM Arouet666]

5. I agree

It did not hit me until the second episode of the current arc that T'pau was the same Vulcan female that we saw in TOS Amok Time. Add to that the mind meld, Vulcan Coptra, and the neck pinch, and I am getting excited with this series.

[Deja Q]

6. Don't worry. It's on the death slot. We Firefly fans know how you feel.

I saw a couple of episodes. Apart from a bad attempt to retro-ize the NX-01, there's nothing good I can say about it. Star Trek turned into Star Drek about, oh, 10 years ago.

Except Firefly had lasted only 14 episodes, 3 of which never aired, and is rather more interesting and also undeserving of both the timeslot and cancellation; Berman's midas touch gave Paramount 3 years of Star Drek and that's why it's being given the death slot. BTW: Season 4 is also videotaped, not filmed. New digital video process. Paramount doesn't care, yet it still wants to vacuum every penny from its fans.

Also, having seen a lot of episodes where the Vulcans are far more slimy than we had been led to believe for 30-some years, I refuse to see "Enterprise" as being canon. Maybe if it were shot out of a cannon, but it is not canon. Sorry, badly written AIDS allegories amongst many other forms of what tapdances along the line of "mucking up continuity", rules it out. Of course, starting with the "Generation" mvie, Berman decided to consciously start screwing with continuity. (Remember, The Enterprise-D said only 5 starships had the name 'Enterprise'. Spock said Vulcan had never been conquered in all remembered history yet Vulcan circa 22nd century is ran by a bunch of deceitful conquerors who also have people like T'Pau being rebels... Worf in TNG said Klingons do not drink with their enemies yet Klingon Commander Kor happily did with Kirk... there are numerous of other things, but it's all academic. In only an arcane way.)

My overall beef isn't with Enterprise. It's the idiot(s) in charge, all of which should have been axed a decade ago.

Berman, starting with Deep Sleep 9, tried copying the Babylon 5 formula as well. Didn't work then. Doesn't work now.

[FM Arouet666]

8. Ouchy

I cannot dispute anything you have said, though I do not agree. Canon seems to be in the eye of the beholder, the series does suffer from a periodic disregard for its own history. I guess I forgive the many logical inconsistencies because of my undying hope for humankind and engagement in the fantasy of our future.

Berman is much maligned by Trekies and those critical of the series. I am still neutral, he presided over the last few years of TNG and all of DS9, both of which I enjoyed. As for the movies, too many liberties with the intent of appealing to non-trekies.

Regardless of the series ST or B5, those who enjoy science fiction look toward the future. Science has allowed humankind to advance to its present state. Unfortunately, with the current administration and upsurge in religious declaration, I wonder if our future will as hopeful.

Hab SoSlI' Quch! :evilgrin:

[coloradodem2005]

9. I thought that DS9 was an excellent show.

For me it is almost up there with TNG. The one that I was never a fan of was Voyager, mainly because it was poorly written in my mind. Even the good episodes of Voyager were not that good. I guess my problem is that I have not watched Babylon 5. But I loved DS9. It could be really dark, it could be really funny, and it was probably the most human of all Trek series. Berman has made mistakes, but DS9 was one of the things he did well. Maybe you could attribute that to either Michael Piller or Ira Steven Behr more so than Berman, but DS9 was awesome.

[FM Arouet666]

10. I completely agree

I hated DS9 after TNG ended, because nothing could take the place of my beloved series. However, having watched the DS9 re-runs, I become captivated by the series. I have gone so far as to buy the entire DS9 DVD set. I agree with you, Berman has made mistakes, most notably with the disregard for canon in the movies. However, DS9 and the later half of TNG prove that he is far from the hack that many have portrayed him to be.

[coloradodem2005]

11. First Contact was also great.

It did kind of disregard canon with the Borg being run by a queen, however it is my second favorite trek movie behind Wrath of Khan.