BRING BACK KAYSAR!!

[dr.strangelove]

Somebody gets to coem back into the Big Brother house and America gets to choose. Pick Kaysar. He is the biggest asshole in the history of Big Brother. His turn on Eric was the best TV Big Brother has had in years. Everyone in the house, even his "friends" know what an ass he is. Plus, he will turn on them in a second. He already turned on James to try to stay in the house. Eric is too goody goody. He won't cut anyone throat unless it is to save Maggie. Kaysar will screw over anyone.
VOTE Kaysar

[lazarus]

1. Here's a link

Vote Kaysar!

Just clicking on it will vote for Kaysar.

[OKNancy]

2. You are being sarcastic , right?

I read a lot of Big Brother sites and to a one they all love Kaysar because he is such a great guy. They hate Eric because he's an ass.
I agree.

I don't think I've ever heard of anyone say Eric was goody-goody.

[lazarus]

3. For some reason

Dr Strangelove thinks Kaysar is the bad guy. :shrug:

[Qanisqineq]

4. I've been noticing that too

I haven't figured out why yet.

[magnolia]

5. I agree with you Nancy....

Kaysar is a nice guy and he's playing the game smart.

Eric AKA "lights out b*tches" is the A-hole!

[OKNancy]

6. It's a lot worse than that

I watched the feeds and read transcripts of times when I didn't watch. He is a real jerk. They haven't shown a lot of the bad stuff on the television show. The worst is Ivette who was extrememly nasty toward Kaysar...calling him Osama and such.

[dr.strangelove]

9. Well, I'm never one to agree with the masses

I'm not being sarcastic. I think Kaysar is an asshole. I think Eric is boring and a goodie-goodie. (How does one spell goody-goody, I tried two ways and neither looks correct to me?)

As the show goes on, and I watch the characters develop, my opinions change. I started watching the live feed a few weeks back, and that changed my opinion too. I originally loved Eric and Kaysar, but I turned on Eric because he was boring and very predictable. He was not making the show appealing to me. I loved when he got in the fight with Michael, but after that he started to get on my nerves. When he did not put up Kaysar because of the deal they made, and would not let Maggie pick him for the veto chess match, I put him in my "shit box" and have not taken him out yet. I still think Eric is a very nice guy and someone I would probably like if I met in person.

I really don't care what the blogs and web sites say about anyone. I don't really watch to give other people entertainment, I watch because I want some entertainment for me. I'm pretty selfish about TV, I want what I want. If others love Kaysar and think he is a nice guy, whatever floats your boat. If you want to chat about why I think Kaysar is not a very "good" person, we can, but it seems silly since I don't know the guy real well, just the few hours of TV a week and the live feed views of him. I doubt that is a real big portal into his mind, but it is all I have to base my feelings on.

What I have seen, I think he is an asshole. I think he is a schemer who plans out things to his advantage. That is a great trait for a game, but one that does not endear him to me as a person. I also wrote in another post about some comments he made to Janelle and Sarah on the live feeds that were pretty mean. I love that he is an asshole. He plays the game very well and anyone who wants to win should have taken him out. I don't want to see him go though, I want him back.

[laugle]

7. KAYSAR was brilliant, Eric is a big control freak!

Remember Eric turned on Michael and that's what made Kaysar turn on him. He deserved to get booted! Kaysar has integrity and guts. Besides he is sooooo much more interesting than meat head Eric!!! IVETTE IS SOOOO IRRITATING AND I HOPE SHE GOES SOON!!! Calling the other side evil, what an idiot!! Eric set the tone for betrayal.

[dr.strangelove]

8. I think Kaysar is the "bad guy"?

I never said he is the bad guy. I called him an asshole. In my opinion he is a total asshole, but I am friends with lots of assholes. I want him back in the game because I think he adds a great deal of stress to the house. He reminds me a great deal of Brian Heidik from Survivor Thailand. I think Brian was also an asshole, but someone who played the game very well and made the show more entertaining.

As for Eric being the "good" guy, yo are correct that I think he is a fairly "good" guy. He backed his new "friend" James until he was up against Maggie, then he had to defend his longtime friend over a friend in the game. If I was in the house with a friend from home, if I could not win, I would want my friend to win and do al I could so that one of us did. I think that was a "good" thing to do, as far as "good" goes in this type of game.

I'm not sure anyone is good or bad in a game like this.

As for why I think Kaysar is an asshole, he was a dick to Janelle and Sarah several times, which did not make the show. I don't know if you guys watch the live feed, but I started to a few weeks ago. He was very condescending to Janelle and Sarah on several occasions. Janelle called him on it twice and he backed off and had to go repair the damage his remarks caused. When he was alone with Janelle, I got the impression that his "true self" was on display and that he is a bit of a jerk to women. Maybe that was part of his strategy to play Janelle and Sarah, but if so I think was a mistake. He did not make too many mistakes, so I think instead of strategy, it was him being a jerk.

Anyway, I love Kaysar and want him back in the game. Eric would not control the game the way Kaysar does. There is no better TV than when Maggie won HOH and took control back from Kaysar. His face when she won was priceless. I want him back for those moments. I don;t think I will get those moments with Eric.

Kaysar, Richard, Boston Rob, Brian ... all assholes who made for great TV. Colby and Ethan, "good guys" who were fun to watch but not very exciting to watch (however my wife found it very exciting to watch both of them for other reasons).

[lazarus]

10. I don't see him as an asshole, though

I watch the live feeds, though, and read a ton of recaps, and I've not seen much, if any, asshole behaviour from him.

Certainly not compared with Eric and the rest of his cult. Those people are the most disgusting group ever on reality TV.

[dr.strangelove]

11. I don't see it

I don't see the distgusting behavior from "Eric's group," at least when compared to any other group on reality TV.

As for my opinion of Kaysar, I don't think I would be friends with him is I met him out of the house. Of course that is based on what I have seen on TV and the feeds so far, so I can't be sure of that. With the same condition in mind, I think I would be friends with Eric.

As for the asshole behavior from Kaysar, he degraded Janelle on several occasions and took Sarah for granted and made some very poor comments about her (I think she will prove to be a better player if James leaves the house this week). He is a great player in this game, but I would not want to be friends with him. Often great players in these games are assholes. In fact the only great reality TV player I think I would enjoy being friends with is Rob C from Survivor Amazon and All Stars.

[lazarus]

12. do you watch the feeds?

Eric was an insane power-mad dictator. His reactions to Michael were incredibly overblown. And the producers should have kicked him out (and probably Michael) for that scene in the yard. Giving them alcohol was just wrong.

He started the game by making alliances with every guy except Beau, who he said he considered "one of the girls". Within a week, he had promptly broken that alliance. The reason? He didn't like the fact that Michael was being friendly with Janelle. :wtf:

After all his talk about Michael's being inappropriate sexually, he proceeded to make lewd and graphic sexual comments to and about the rest of his cult. Yeah, real honorable.

Maggie actually talked about shitting on a plate and giving it to Sarah for her birthday cake. She took a dump in the HOH bathroom and didn't flush as a "present" for Kaysar.

April is just nasty.

And Ivette? The most disgusting person I've seen on a reality show. I'd rather have Fairplay than her, because I know Fairplay is playing a role. She's just a pure out bigot.

I haven't seen Kaysar degrade Janelle at all. Is it degrading to tell her that she's the most intelligent person in the house? That she deserves more than she gives herself credit for? That she has incredible potential? Because that's what I heard Kaysar telling Janelle.

As for Sarah, everyone's dismissed her. Don't see how that makes Kaysar an asshole.

Oh, well. That's what makes opinions fun.

[Qanisqineq]

13. OMG!

You can't be serious! Maggie said that about giving Sarah that? And did that in the bathroom? How juvenile is that? Now I like to do things that are immature at times for fun, but that is just downright disgusting.

I haven't seen the live feeds but just from seeing Eric lose his temper on TV (with Michael and again after Maggie lost the veto competition) he is just too hot-tempered.

[Pithlet]

14. You and I agree on something reality tv related!

:bounce:

[dr.strangelove]

15. Everyone's got one, I guess

For every negative thing you said about Eric, I took them in a very different way. I never saw Eric as an "insane power-mad dictator." HE was a strong player trying to secure himself. His role as leader of a small group in the house gave him control over a certain number of votes. In order to make himself safe, he needed to enlarge that number. The way that is done is through alliance building. OFten in reality shows multiple alliances are made, and not expected to be followed. I can't get mad at someone for playing the game. Thats why I'm not mad at Kaysar either. He made alliances and broke them to further his position in the game.

I agree that Eric and Michael should both have been kicked out for their inability to control their violence. However I disagree that Eric's reactions to Michael were incredibly overblown. Michael was sexually assaulting people. I have a deep hatred for unwelcome sexual contact. Michael was not just flirting or kissing several women on the back of the neck, he kissed April stomach after she told him not too and lifted her bikini to look at her breasts. He also touched her breasts on two occasions on the live feeds. April told him to stop and complained ot Eric and Kaysar about this. If I was in the house, unless Michael tried to make amends with April, I would have faced difficulty holding my anger in. That behavior is just not acceptable in any society. When Howie was confronted, he apologized and stopped it. I have not seen any sexual groping from Howie since before the Eric/Michael fight. Michael once ran his foot up Sarah's though and placed it in her crotch, near her vagina. She told him to stop and he laughed. When you cross that type of line, and the woman does not return your feelings or express a desire to continue, you stop the behavior. Michael did not. For these reasons, I can hardly call Eric's reaction overblown. Someone needed to take it up a step to make Michael understand he was violating the "rules" if not the law.

I agree that the fight was the result of both Michael and Eric drinking a fair amount of alcohol at the time. I believe that is why BB did not kick them both out, but cut off the alcohol. It was a bad move to give them alcohol, but it happened. Even without the alcohol, Michael deserved to go. If he had pulled some of that crap on me, or touched a girl's breasts or crotch that clearly did not want it to happen, I would have gotten violent too.

Eric started the game with the four person alliance. I believe he planned to control those four and make himself, and his secret partner, the winner. He chose wisely, taking two of the best players in the house, James and Kaysar. Kaysar forced Michael into that alliance. Eric was smart enough to not want Michael because he was a terrible player and was pissing multiple people off. The Kaysar Eric relationship was damaged severely by Michael's tip to Eric that they were a pair. Eric needed to control Kaysar, and once Michael tipped Eric off about Kaysar talking to Michael about his actions toward Janelle, Eric knew he could not control or trust Kaysar, and learned that Kaysar was a better player than he thought. Still, he lived up to his word and did not remove Kaysar from the game when he had the chance. That was Eric's mistake, but I don't think it makes him a power mad dictator, it makes him a good player, just not as good as Kaysar.

I think you grossly misread why he was mad and broke the original four alliance. It was not because Michael was being friendly with Janelle, it was because Kaysar demonstrated that he was a strong player and Eric could not control him. Eric needed to make an alliance that would protect him. He did that. I fail to see how that is different than any other good player, and how it makes him a power mad dictator.

Eric's actions toward Beau chow Eric is clearly homophobic. Homophobes are fairly common, unfortuanately. I can bet you Beau has learned very well how to deal with someone who is homophobic, and tell the difference between a homophobe and someone who has an irrational hatred toward gays. Eric appears to have been the former, which I know from experience is very common in the male dominated field of firefighting. Beau knew how to play Eric, by letting Ivette take care of it. I have no problem with Eric dealing with his homophobia on screen. He seemed to be moving in the right direction and made some self discovery. He talked with Beau and IVette several times, even though he stayed away from Beau for the first two weeks. Anyway, I agree that Eric treated Beau poorly based upon his irrational feelings toward gays.

In fact, the only person who I did not see any change from on his anti-gay feelings was Kaysar. Kaysar's reactions to Beau have been nothing short of hate. He refused to talk with Beau, and has removed himself from any situation where Beau was present and the conversations turned to sex. Howie kissed Kaysar, which was a bad move on Howie's part and should have gotten him punched. I fail to see why BB will kicj someone out for a physical assault, but will let that type of assault go on. It can hurt just as much and cause more stress to the house. Again, Howie was drunk and I think BB should keep alcohol out of these situations. However mad Kaysar was, he was not drinking and smartly left the room. However, once he got out side the room, he and talked about how disgusting gay acts were. He has never shown any desire to move away from his anti-gay feelings. My feelings about Kaysar being an asshole were partly guided by some of his reactions in that situation. In Eric, I saw an open minded approach to a very different lifestyle. In Kaysar I saw only hatred for that lifestyle.

The difference between Eric and Michael's lewd comments to certain women is that Eric's were welcomed by Maggie, Ivette and April and Michael's were not. Unwelcome touching to the breasts and crotch is a sexual assault. Unwelcome sexual gestures and comments are harassment. Welcomed touching to the breasts and crotch are fairly common in friendly relationships and welcomed sexual banter is even more common in friendships. I'm okay with a woman making a choice that one man is allowed to touch her or discuss sex with her, but another is not. Eric was welcomed and Michael was not, I don;t care why. April has every right to make that decision on her own, for whatever reason she wants. So yeah, I feel Eric was "real honorable."

[lazarus]

16. Long post

But I'll just answer a few things.

Yeah, Michael was behaving inappropriately. But April and Jen admitted that they had grossly exaggerated his behaviour. They've developed a nasty habit of trying to get people out through character assassination and lying.

As for "sexual assault", maybe. But when Eric started saying things like "Now I'm scared" because Michael was making snarky comments about his reputation, that was just so drama queen.

As for Kaysar and Beau, did you see the time that Beau was laying on Kaysar, nibbling his ear? Was that inappropriate? Kaysar took it in good fun, and didn't say anything untoward about it.

I never saw Kaysar making comments about homosexuality, so I'll have to take your word for it. I will say he hasn't gone on and on about it, and tried to get Beau evicted because of it. Compare that with Ivette and her tirades about Kaysar's religion.

And Eric's comments about the Koran were rather pathetic, too.

And Eric even said he broke the alliance because he was "uncomfortable" with Michael's relationship with Janelle. Nothing more than that.

And if he just broke the alliance because he saw Kaysar was a strong player, that's even less honourable. For them to then accuse Kaysar of being dishonest and 'evil' for putting Eric up was the very definition of hypocrisy.

Finally, Eric's reaction was completely overblown. He was warning people, especially Kaysar, to get away, because he knew he was going to try something physical. And then he denied he was actually going to do something. Right.

I kinda wish they had let the two go at it. Since Michael has something like a 5th degree black belt. That could have been fun, seeing a real beat down on a reality show.

But the two should indeed have been kicked out. Plus, that would mean Kaysar would be the only one eligible to come back!

[dr.strangelove]

17. Sorry for the long post

I can't touch upon your comments today and I will be out of town until Thursday's show. I guess this is one of those TV issues on which we just disagree.

Anyway, I hope Kaysar comes back and have voted for him on my phone and online.

[lazarus]

18. Yeah, that's cool

I'm leaving town Friday for week, so we can talk about it all in mid-August.

:hi:

[OKNancy]

19. Some silliness

[Qanisqineq]

20. Oh that is hilarious!

Is it real?

[OKNancy]

22. Probably not real

but it's funny anyway. lol

[sldavis]

23. I thought it looked familiar

Kind of fun to make your own church sign

http://www.churchsigngenerator.com/

[Pithlet]

21. LOL

I think it will probably be Kaysar. I've been voting like crazy. I'll have a fit if it's Eric.

[OKNancy]

24. 82% of America wanted the Iraqi back!!

Glad he made it back.

[Qanisqineq]

25. I thought that percentage was just astounding!

:bounce:

I knew he was liked but holy crap! That means Eric and Michael combined only got 18%.

Poor Michael and Ashlea (if she had stayed in sequestration), they never really had a chance since America didn't get to know them very well.

[dmr]

49. And, Eric got 12%

That's what BB's producer, Arnold Shapiro said on "BB Housecalls" the other day.

[sldavis]

29. I won a bet with my husband

I guessed 83%, and he guessed 55. Ha. I wonder if they'll tell the houseguests how skewed the result was? Man, it would be great if he won HOH.

[Suich]

26. Would someone who gets the live feed please

let us know who wins HOH. I don't want to wait until Saturday to find out!

Thanks!

[OKNancy]

27. As of 4:00am their time

Beau, Janelle, and April out.

[OKNancy]

28. Woah - another one just now

Ivette out

Now everyone out except Kaysar and Jennifer. She is begging, he's wavering. If he let's go he is really stupid.

[Qanisqineq]

30. NO!

KAYSAR! DON'T BE STUPID!

[ernstbass]

31. I hope Kaysar gets HOH

Any news on this? Such a shame that idiot Ivette didn't leave last night. I was thrilled with the 82% for Kaysar (too bad so sad Maggie and Eric!!)

[Qanisqineq]

32. In the Entertainment & Pop Culture forum there is a thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=210&topic_id=7847&mesg_id=7847

Someone is watching the live feed. It is down to Kaysar and Jennifer.

[ernstbass]

33. Thanks!

[OKNancy]

34. Jennifer won

damn

[dr.strangelove]

35. WHAT THE HELL DID KAYSAR DO

I've ben out for a few days. I read a message board and it said he gave up after a deal with Jennifer. He does not really trust her to keep her word, does he. He is going up on the block for sure. What a fool he is. He should have stayed up there until he fell on the floor.

[Qanisqineq]

36. I AM IN COMPLETE AGREEMENT WITH YOU

He's a smart player, what the hell came over him to trust her?

[laugle]

37. Who do you think is leaving--Janelle or Rachel,

I think it might be Janelle. I hope not. Boy did Kaysar blow-it!! But it's great to have him back. The show is soooo much more interesting with him on it. Can't wait to see his next strategy. He's very smart and cute too.

[Qanisqineq]

38. Kaysar is leaving

in the Entertainment and Pop Culture forum there is a BB6 thread. Rachel was taken off and Jennifer put Kaysar up.

Somone has the live feed.

:grr:

[Pithlet]

39. Please post spoiler alerts. This isn't a spoiler thread.

I've been trying to avoid spoilers.

[Qanisqineq]

40. Sorry

There is a spoiler thread in Entertainment and Pop Culture and I wasn't paying any attention to which was which and which I was posting in (spoiler or not)

[Pithlet]

41. I figured you didn't do it intentionally

It's okay. :)

ETA I kind of guessed that would happen, anyway. I figured Kaysar would be pissed and let Jennifer know it, and she'd retaliate by putting him up. Sigh...

[laugle]

42. Those evil bastards!! I hate Jennifer,

if she had a brain she would be really dangerous. Are they just ploting against Kaysar, or is it pretty much a done deal? Has the vote been taken on Kaysar? Let me know. Thanks.

I just read the thread in E & PC. Got the scoop. No need to reply. Thanks again, I didn't even know that forum existed. When I get impatient, I will read some spoiler threads.

[Orangepeel]

44. what a dope she is, too

now, if anyone on "the other side" gets power again (please let that happen!), she's the number one target. She could have kept her word and been on the good side of both teams.

[Pithlet]

43. Ugh.

I just don't think I can bring myself to finish this season. I couldn't even watch last nights episode that I TiVo'd. I'll probably just let it time off. If Kaysar goes on Thursday, I think that will be it for me. I have no desire to watch Maggie or any of her creepy cultish followers win, and I think that's what's going to happen. Kaysar and James are the only two smart enough to beat them, and I can't stand James.

[ernstbass]

45. It sounds like all hell lis breaking loose in the house

herehttp://www.jokersupdates.com/jarticles/article.php?id=716's a link

[Pithlet]

46. James is going to win. Thursday Spoiler.

The :puke: Friendship Alliance has the numbers. If Janelle, Howie and Rachel don't win every single HOH from here on out, they're toast. They just don't have the numbers. Then, when they're completely obliterated, the FA will start turning on each other, and James' smug, repukey ass will ride it all the way to the top.

Ugh. I just don't think I can watch. Janelle winning HOH is just a last gasp of breath for that group.

[qanda]

47. I don't understand why Howie didn't put up two from the FA

And I will NEVER understand why Kaysar trusted Jennifer-- was getting James that important?

[Pithlet]

48. Howie's nominations were just dumb.

Kaysar I understand, because sleep deprivation can really screw with your mind. Plus, I think he's basically a decent guy and Jennifer's crocodile tears got to him.