Survivor Fiji - Episode 9 Discussion Thread - NO SPOILERS

[dr.strangelove]

I was out last night and taped it, but have not watched it yet. Anyone else want to discuss it, please do so. Otherwise I will post something tomorrow after I watch it.

[MemphisTiger]

1. Good episode

***spoiler alert***

Mookie screwed himself by telling Dreamz about the idol. In doing so he lost the trust of Alex and Edguardo and Dreamz never trusted him to begin with.

I like the build up to the showdown of the Godfather types of Earl and ALex, it should be fun to see who wins the showdown. I would have voted Dreamz out before just because he can't be trusted with a secret. The previews for next week prove that. Should have taken him out when they had the chance. Too late now.

[qanda]

2. I thought it was a good episode also

I loved the twist involving immunity.

[Goblinmonger]

3. They did a great job with the twists.

The "you can talk about it" tribal council was a great idea. Alex is the smartest guy on there because he figured a way to let the others know how to vote.

The "now that you have bonded we are going to randomly split you up" bit was fabulous. Especially the way it worked out with alliances split.

They actually came up with some good ideas.

[Goblinmonger]

4. I can't believe Dreamz voted the way he did

Mookie made it clear before who needed to go and why. Dreamz is a moron. I liked the preview; it looks like Mookie lets him know he is a doorknob.

[Suich]

5. I love those mysterious notes that only the losers

get to read! Mookie better keep that idol in his own pocket because if Edgardo or Alex get half a chance, they'll snatch it back. Huge mistake to tell Dreamz, who is probably going to tell Cassandra, and pretty soon, everyone will know! I haven't figured out if that's a good thing or a bad thing. It was a cool twist that they lost the couch and bed! I haven't liked Stacy or Michelle since the incident with the coffee.

[MemphisTiger]

6. The girl that stayed is the one with the coffee incident,

I don't blame her too much for the coffee incident since the episode before they elected to vote someone off rather than switch camps and Dreamz was dumb enough to open his mouth and say Stacy or Lisi should go since they are the weakest right to their face. He is as dumb as a bag of rocks and deserves whatever comes at him in this game.

[dr.strangelove]

7. I like Dreamz

Though it may have looked like a bad move last night, it was not. He was told effectively that Mookie did not trust him, then Mookie asked him to trust Mookie. Dreamz would have been a fool to fall for that twice. Dreamz knows that they have an idol, and can use that info to switch to the other group. No one knows Yao has the other idol except Earl. I see Dreamz forming a foursome with Earl, Cassandra and Yao Man, then trying to get Boo for at least this vote. I would pick off Alex or Edguardo this week, whichever does not have individual immunity, if there is individual immunity. Dreamz is in a power position. I bet Dreamz winds up in the final four. Dreamz is smarter than they are editing him to be. His comments at tribal made me respect him more. He is not a pawn, but is playing to win. He turned Mookie and the others against themselves by outing Mookie's vote and then drops them all with the idol info. I like Dreamz and think he may win this thing, if he can outplay Earl who is now my favorite to win it all.

[MemphisTiger]

8. Earl is the smart one not Dreamz...

Dreamz is a pawn and his constant slaughter of the English language grates on my nerves.

I understand that Mookie felt threatened by Alex and Edguardo but he should have waited to tell Dreamz until it was time. He jumped the gun in my opinion. I'm not sure what you mean by Mookie asked him to trust Mookie.

[dr.strangelove]

9. I would argue both are smart

I have no problems with Dreamz' use of the english language. I've never been one to get upset at urban english usage. I spent many of my formative years in the bronx and brooklyn, where urban english usage is very common. It has tremendous benefits for poor urban youths. But that is a debate better suited ot GD and not the TV forum, so if you are interested, lets take it over there.

I think Mookie blew it by telling Dreamz about the idol in front of Alex. He should have done it alone. Mookie is a bad player and deserves to go.

Dreamz is far smarter in my opinion that you give him credit for. I think he will do very well in this game. I will not be surprised if it is he and Earl at the very end of the game. What I meant by my comment was that Mookie first showed Dreamz disrespect by not telling him about the idol. Then Mookie asked Dreamz to trust him and vote in such a way to protect both he and Dreamz. I think Dreamz realized he could not trust Mookie, and acted in such a way that will help only Dreamz. He will now have Alex and Edguardo pissed at Mookie for voting for Stacy. Maybe he can turn the tables and use Mookie now. IMO, this episode will be the turning point toward an Earl, Yau-man, Dreamz and Cassandra final four.

[MemphisTiger]

10. Dreamz was foolish to throw the first stone at the initial Moto

tribe when he made enemies with Lisi and Stacy telling them they were going at the vote becasue they were weak

[dr.strangelove]

11. Well, calling them out in public would not be my style

but he was already ebing treated like a dog by both of them and I suspect he wanted to show them he would not lie back and take it.
I guess like him, and I guess you don't. Thats okay. If its Dreamz in the final two (or three) I will not be surprised.