Survivor Tocantins: Episode 4 Discussion Thread

[dr.strangelove]

Coach is such an ass. He sits around and complains about Erin being a cancer, when the cancer is him. His speech about Brendan being the leader was such a guilt trip. Everyone he wants out is eh cancer, maybe the reason the cancer is still there is because its him, or maybe the cancer is that these women can call him out for the loser he is. Anyway, last night was a good episode, but not great. It was the weakest of the season so far. I was a little worried about Taj and Sierra wen Brendan forgot to talk to Sierra about the deal, but it seems to have worked out.

The weight challenge is one of my favorites. I remember Mike and colby in Australia holding up all that weight. Its such a good game. Again the bad call in voting out strong people is clear when having Candace over little Debbie would have helped a lot. I give JT and Joe credit for playing smart for the tribe switch, but bad way to go about explaining it. I would have talked a little bit differently about what they had to offer.

Oh yeah, we finally got to meet Sydney last night. Wow that girl is beautiful. She seems bright, but not overly athletic. She will be a liability down the road, but she is worth way more that the Crazy Sandy. I also am starting to both hate and like Tyson. he is just so out there, its hard to know where he is ever coming from. He is like Greg in the first Survivor and his coconut phone. I'm not sure what Tyson will do. He wants to vote out Erin because she will cry the most when she is evicted. Man he is weird. But he is also very bright. He carried Timbera in the immunity challenge. He saw the puzzle before anyone else did and put it all together.

Oh well, Sandy had to go. another smart vote for Jalapeno. I think they will keep making the smarter votes. What was Taj thinking with her vote for Joe? I did not get that at all. Unless she was trying to shake things up. It was a good episode, but not great. I hope to see the cross tribe alliance discussed next week. I hope it survives.

[Demit]

1. I think Tyson has almost as many issues as Coach. Imagine looking forward to who you want to get rid

of next? Which means you have to lose first. No wonder their tribe is a loser tribe, with the two of them fixating on who to get rid of, instead of how to work together to win challenges. Coach just freakin scares me, with the talk about cutting out the cancer. Watching him, I flashed on one of those insane religious figures from the Inquisition or the Salem witch trials. He has a laughably inflated view of himself as a leader. Leaders don't talk about how hurt they are that they're not seen as a natural leader. LOL, that should tell them something about whether they actually are. They also don't complain about how badly their team is doing. They look for a way to lead their team to do better.

I think both Taj and Sandy should have said far less than they did at tribal council. I cringe when people I'm sympathetic to get too cocky. It's still a bit of a popularity contest at this point, and Taj shouldn't have let on that it bothered her (in effect criticizing) that the guys were possibly thinking with their little heads wrt Sydney. She should have acted like she was above that. Sandy was presuming too much in saying that yes, she fits in, instead of being kind of humble and saying gee, she hoped that she did, and leaving it up to the younger people to feel generous toward her and be the ones to say she fit in. I really believe the guys' minds weren't totally made up until those two spoke.

It also looks like Taj is going to step in it further, judging from the previews. Oh well, it's also about the outwit part. If Taj isn't smart enough to know when to lie low, she's not smart enough to outlast.

[romana]

2. Weak

I agree, there was really nothing terribly exciting about last night's episode. I even went back to grading papers during tribal council! O.O

I love Team Secret, but I'm not convinced Brendon is playing along as much as he says he's playing along. Come on, he seriously can't find time to talk to Sierra once he got back? He left that up to Taj? Something just doesn't smell right about that at all. And I hope Taj went and got that immunity idol now that she knows where it is. In fact, I hope that's why she's all cocky in the previews next week. Sometimes, people just do the stupidest things in this game--it makes me gnash my teeth in frustration.

I love that the weight challenge came down to the women. I think Debbie did a respectable job, but she was just not physically up to the task, and Timbera's dumbness in voting out strong women showed there. I don't fault Debbie for that at all as much as I fault Coach and his stupid, egotistical decisions.

The observation that Tyson and Coach are the cancers who are focusing solely on who to get rid of and what a great show it will make sums up the entire problem with their tribe. Coach, in particular, needs to go even though I expect he'll probably be pretty entertaining as things go further along, and will probably be someone who is good to take to the finals. But damn, he's an egotistical asshole. He wants to make that whole tribe about him rather than about winning.

Love the shopping trip, and I think those two guys were smart about it. Sandy demonstrated that she had no clue about strategy, so it's not a shame that she went.