Survivor 21 Ep 5: "Turf Wars"

[lazarus]

Marty is the biggest idiot who ever idioted.

Now that I have that out of the way:

Tyrone needed a lesson from James in banana etiquette, apparently. He didn't appear to take all that much meat. He got one scrawny wing, and picked the carcass clean. And why did they pick a hen instead of the rooster? The hens lay eggs; roosters don't. And plucking the chicken is much easier if you scald it first in water that's about 190 degrees for ten seconds. I've done it myself, and it's a lot of work if you skip the scalding.

I was so hoping we'd seen the last of Na Onka. Amazing that Alina has the class to sympathize with her after her attitude on La Flor.

Edited to add: It's interesting that Na Onka is getting more support and comfort from total strangers who need her for their alliance than she got from people she knew in her regular life during a traumatic divorce. You think there might be a reason for that? Also interesting is the new edit Na got tonight. When she's away from Jud and Kelly B, she's apparently a decent person that people get along with.

She just has this unreasoning hatred of those two.

This season has basically become the Marty/Na Onka show, and I'm tired of it. Neither of them is a decent player, neither of them has a chance of winning. My money is now on Brenda or Ben, with Chase as a dark horse. I can't see any way a member of the old Espada wins this thing.

So we're back to two challenges now. That IC was amusing, but I didn't realize they'd stop with one ball. I thought it would be more amusing, and much tougher, if they only got one shot with the ball, then had to reset the pipe and fill it again. But that may have been dangerous, as I think the ladies were getting a bit tired of being dunked. Espada figured out a good plan, but Jeffrey spoiled it, as he's wont to do. I miss the early seasons, when in-challenge commentary was rare, and the story was told through chirons.

Speaking of Jeffrey, he's really gotten obsessed with tribes' having leaders the last two or three years, hasn't he? It first got bad in Gabon, iirc, when he made that one tribe elect GC as leader.

[murielm99]

1. I was hoping for more from Tyrone.

We don't even know some of these people yet. I like Fabio. He could do well in the right alliance.

[dr.strangelove]

2. Marty

Marty is a dumbass. He plays like an idiot, yo are right Laz. He has no vision. I have no doubt that he will be undone by his own stupidity. I bet one of the young ones convinces MArty that MArty rules and just picks him off so that he does even play that idol. Worse yet, maybe he gives it to one of the young ones when they are in trouble. He is flat out a fool.

Too busy today to talk much, but I likes the episode. Mistake to vote out Tyrone, but that tribe is doomed regardless of who they voted out.

[lpbk2713]

3. I think Tyrone was eliminated because he was a threat.

Those who voted for him did so out of worry that he was a better player than the rest. And he was right about not killing the chicken. They could have used the eggs for days, instead they went for immediate gratification as he said. And if they had used their heads, they knew one of them was going home that very night. If they had at least waited until the next day they would have had one less mouth to share it with. Nay will be the next to go, and rightfully so.

[warrior1]

4. Na's wanting to quit was a rouse

to blindside Tyrone.

[catchnrelease]

6. The chicken thing was a no brainer

The rooster was of no value except to be eaten!!! The hens lay the eggs and you DON'T need a rooster to get eggs. (The only thing the rooster would give you is fertilized eggs=more chickens, but that takes almost a month and then you wouldn't want to be eating the developing eggs. Well, at least I wouldn't, ugh!) When Chase grabbed the hen I was yelling NO NOT THE HEN!!!

So, by killing one of the hens, they've decreased their egg production to one. They can still eat the rooster I guess. It looks like a pretty lame team now.

[lazarus]

7. I agree

They have the advantage on both teams now, so it's easy to just pick off an older person at each TC no matter who wins. Plus, the older people aren't showing any loyalty to old Espada. Yve was the only one to vote with Tyrone last night.

So you want to take out the people who are threats in individual challenges first. The only wrinkle to the "vote the old people out" strategy is, you want to keep any that are on your alliance's side for when the merge happens and the two sides of old La Flor come back together to fight it out for supremacy. There's a possibility that Kelly B and Alina could team up with a couple of other young'uns and a couple of older people to outnumber the Minority Alliance of Brenda, et al.

[travelingtypist]

5. Love the CBS web site.

Clicking in to watch last night's ep, they have "Tyrone's last words" as the first video. Thanks for the spoiler, assholes.

[lazarus]

8. speculation on what the previews mean

I imagine this is a standard double boot episode that we get a couple of in 20 person seasons. It will likely be just like last season. Each tribe will compete for individual immunity, with those winners competing for a Reward for their tribe.