Kerry v.s. Romney?

[ginnyinWI]

what do ya think, TayTay and Whometense? :eyes:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/02/02/romney_vs_kerry_in_2008/

"Kerry's reemergence on national television comes in the same week as the news that a political-action committee has been sprinkling tens of thousands of dollars about the country to sow good will for Governor Mitt Romney. And that Romney will speak in South Carolina, an important early primary state, next month.

Romney's team, which has long acted as though the governor's rising national profile was merely the happy confluence of coincidental currents of curiosity, courtesy, and charity, predictably downplays the significance of the Commonwealth PAC.

Still, advisers are no longer as coy as they were even a few months ago about the notion of Romney seeking the presidency in 2008."

[JI7]

1. i don't see how he could get through the Republican Primary

but i wouldn't mind seeing him try and fail.

for now i hope the state will get rid of him if he runs for re-election as governor.

[angrydemocrat]

2. I'm not Tay Tay or Whometense

But I can tell you I think it is a total joke and will never come about to start with, but if it did Kerry would stomp a mudhole in his sorry ass! Trust me you can take that one to the bank.

[ginnyinWI]

3. your comments more than welcome too, angrydem!

LOL I knew you'd get a kick out of it too. I don't know much about the guy, except that the MA Kerrycrats can't stand him.

I don't know if you were watching the vote in the Senate just a minute ago, but JK was there, laughing and joking with the other Dems, having a blast. I don't know what they are all so happy about--not the Torture Boy vote, I wouldn't think. Well, good for them, anyway. :)

[angrydemocrat]

4. Trust You Me

This bastard has plenty of dead skeletons in his closet to be pulled out and hang his sorry ass with. And his record as a governor sucks as well and would work against him. This fuck wad wouldn't make it past the damn primaries much less have a chance at running against Kerry in a presidential election. Sheesh I can't stand that asshole. And I will work to see his ass gets defeated in 2006 as well! I was hoping when they had that blizzard they would take and haul all that snow from Beacon Hill and dump it on his front lawn right as his door step and stick a sign in it saying "Compliments of the great citizens of Massachusetts!"

[angrydemocrat]

5. They were probably laughing and joking about

All those dumbass republicans and their silly ass speeches about torture boy. And probably at Joementum as well with his dumbass shit! Sheesh! Maybe they were cracking jokes about the kiss * give Joementum last night at the SOTU and how it got to his brain.

[ginnyinWI]

18. I think I know what the joke was

Charles Schumer showed up in a bright red tie with a pink shirt today--he was talking to reporters and I saw it. And on the floor Kerry and some others appeared to be laughing and pointing to some guy's stomach, and he was laughing and adjusting his coat and tie. So I'll bet that was Schumer, and that was the joke--the loud color combo. :)

[TayTay]

8. Yeah, I saw that too

He looked like his old self again. I think he is all healed up from the loss last fall and ready to get back to business. Twas nice to see.

[angrydemocrat]

11. I Got To Thinking About Something Tonight

There have been several great men run for president from there but only one has ever won. That being John F.Kennedy. Why the hell is that do you guys have a damn curse on all these men or what? LOL Is it like the Red Sox curse? Or have you thought about it.

I can remember the great Paul Tsongas. He was a congressman, senator, and he ran for president in 1992. I was pulling for him myself I didn't get to vote for him but I remember I sure as hell wanted too. And I was madder than hell Clinton beat him. And I still say Tsongas would have made a hell of a president even better than Clinton was. I remember he won the New Hampshire primaries but after that it wasn't that good. I feel sometimes he lost due to people worried about his health. But like I said i was pissed when he lost. It was a sad day when that man died. And if you ask me him and Kerry had a lot in common as far as the way they think.

Then Dukakis who would have been another great one and he lost with a lot of dirty smear tatics and shit but still he lost. Then Ted Kennedy lost in 1980 (I think that date is right).

And then the one that pisses me off the most and that is over my hero John Kerry in 2004! And I am still not over that one yet. I have waited all these years for this man to run and he finally does and come so damn close to winning it makes me sick to think he lost. This man has been the better of all of them so far and damn. This man is what this country needs so damn bad. He has been great at everything he has ever set out to do. He smart, intelligent, courages, and knowledgable. He has been a hell of a prosecuter, lt. governor, and U.S. Senator for 20 years. He has everything you could possibly want in a president.

So what the shit is it? Does Massachusetts have a damn curse on all these great men LOL. If so Kerry is going to break that damn curse come 2008! Damn this shit.

[TayTay]

12. Well, we have a reputation, don't ya know.

Us Massholes hang out with the wrong crowd, we get ideas about liberalism and we don't fit in with the rest of the nation and well, there ya go. Nobody in the rest of the country wants their children hanging out with us. We are a bad influence on people who don't believe in social services, education, civil rights and separation of church and state.

We have a bad reputation. What can I tell ya. Personally, I blame it on Harvard. (Hahvid.) I have been around Hahvid people and they can be a little bit on the insufferable side. (But I'm a BC girl. Really. It's not fair to tag me with the Hahvid label.) It's their fault. Nobody wants their President to come from The World's Greatest University. It's just too too much.

Maybe we should invent a Curse of the Politico. I can give it a go tomorrow. Your right, I smell an X-File here.

[angrydemocrat]

15. Well If That's True Then How In The Hell Do You Explain

Someone like me that has never even been to Massachusetts but yet I seem to like all there damn men from there? Now explain that one will ya LOL. I have been hung up on Kerry 18 years now. I liked Tsongos but never like Kerry, I liked Dukakis and Ted Kennedy but not as much as Tsongos and Kerry has always been my hero. And hell I have never been to Massachusetts. Oh yeah I always loved studying and found John K. Kennedy a very interesting man as well. But I have to say my hero John F.Kerry tops them all and he always will. But still the how do you explain that LOL.

[ginnyinWI]

23. maybe you can answer this question

I was thinking, too bad JK didn't try to run for president earlier. If you've been following him for 18 years (wow!) maybe you know.
I mean, he could have tried for a run in '92, right? A little young, maybe, at 49, but I'm sure he'd have been up to the job! John Kennedy was younger. And Clinton, being an outsider, wasn't a peer of his he needed to defer to or anything. What do you think?
Then once Clinton was in, 1996 and 2000 were closed to him. Too bad, really. Then he finally has to run during this "war on terra" or whatever it is, with a really weakened Democratic party! Boo! Otherwise, a clear landslide victory would have been his.

[angrydemocrat]

24. Reason I Think John Didn't Run In '92

Was because of Tsongas. Kerry and Tsongas were friends and after Tsongas gave up his senate seat in due to cancer and had recovered by the time '92 rolled around I think John felt it was Tsongas turn for that not his. I could be wrong on that but that is what I think. And John was doing well in the Senate so he stayed out of it. And Tsongas would have made a good president not as good as John but still he would have been a damn good one. And Tsongas was like Kerry in many ways. He would take on things regardless of wether it was "popular" or not. Tsongas was a deficit hawk as well. Don't get me wrong him and John didn't think alike on everything but they came close to it. And I thought Tsongas dot a bad wrap over his health and people had to many doubts about it and that was why he lost to Clinton and not because Clinton was better.

A many of great men have come out of Massachusetts it is just to bad people are to damn dumb to see it. They need to learn about these men a little more and get the hell past this stupid ass shit about how we don't need someone from the north we need to get someone from the South because that is the biggest bunch of shit they go around making themselves believe that this southern gal has ever heard! It isn't where they are from it is the men themselves they should be worried about. Do these people have the knowledge, skills, common sense, experience, do they represent your values, are they what you want in a leader not where in the hell they are from, what they do when they are on vacation, how much money they have or not have, how funny they are or not I mean give me a damn break that is dumber than fuck!
And while I live in crappy ass Tennessee I was born and raised in Florida so yes I am a damn southerner taking up for northerns. Because to me people need to get a damn reality check when they worry more about the dumbass shit than the real and important qualifications of the man applying for the job.

And I will say this I have seen more better and more qualified men come out of the north than there has ever been produced in the south. And it's not these mens fault that people are to damn lazy to do their homework and learn the qualifications of these men. It's not their fault so many are to damn lazy to do a little research and learn instead of believing everything they hear on a damn television screen or a damn radio. That is nobody's fault but the lazy asses in this country. And a many a good men have been shoved to the side or forgotten about due to this very thing. And until get off their ass and take the time to learn and wake up and smell the damn coffee in this country it will continue to be that way.

[TayTay]

26. He was in no position to run in '92

Not yet his time. Divorced man, strapped for cash, two kids to get through high school and college and stuff like that. (Personal reasons.) Not yet time.

[angrydemocrat]

29. That too

Because he didn't start dating Teresa until '94 and they married in May of '95. And his finaces wasn't that great but I think had he really wanted to run and had he been married he would have gotten the money. But he would have never run with Tsongas running anyhow. But I didn't factor in the marriage part because that is a huge part of it LOL. But don't you agree even if he had of been married and all he wouldn't have on count of Tsongas.

[TayTay]

32. Tsongas was never a truly serious candidate

Paul had some serious health baggage. He ran as a protest candidate in order to protest the deficit spending and the budget deficit. (That banner was picked up by Ross Perot and it was very powerful.) I loved Paul Tsongas, but he did have serious problems with that run. He was not forthcoming about his health issues and I don't think he ever expected to do as well as he did. (And his mysterious pullout in NY in April has always intrigued me. That must have been when the lymphoma re-emerged. I believe he died on a couple of years later.)

[angrydemocrat]

35. I never heard that it was more to protest

But again I'm not from Massachusetts and you wouldn't hear things like that. But I remeber Tosongas doing pretty well there for a while in that race because that was who I was pulling for I never got to vote for him but had I had the chance I would have. I know he had had haf cancer in '84 and all but he had been treated for that. And if I'm not mistaken it was '97 when he died and it was over pneumonia or at least that was what was told it was over. And it was said that he didn't have the cancer when he died. That was always my understanding of it all so tell me where was I misimformed because like I said not being from there you learn through resources. But I like to know the facts are I don't be saying something that's not true.

[ginnyinWI]

28. your theory makes sense

he'd do that--let the other guy go first. Class Act.

he did the same thing for Gore--didn't try to compete against him for the nomination. (then Gore turned around and endorsed Dean in O4!)

[JohnKleeb]

30. Yep but they call Kerry the arrogant one

[elshiva]

16. The great Paul Tsongas, Amen!

My favorite political film is the documentary "Feed," about the 1992 election. One of my favorite scenes is Sam Donaldson crashing a Tsongas speech, wearing a red tie and looking cheesy. He interrupts Tsongas' and every stares at Donaldson. Then Tsongas blasts Donaldson as a "red tie-wearing, hair blown celebrity..."

[TayTay]

21. My husband loved Tsongas

Worked very hard on his campaign for the Senate in '78. It broke my husband's heart when Tsongas had to retire. But that's what freed up the Senate seat for JK. That was a fun race too. (It got down to Kerry vs his liberal twin Jimmy Shannon. I voted for JK cuz he was ahm, well, they were twins ya see and I had to pick something, so, well, he was a Navy Veteran. Shut up. I had to make a decision based on something and they agreed on everything and well, Shannon was nice, but not a Navy vet and well. Oh damn! Well, it's better than, 'I liked his tie!' Oh hell, all my dirty little secrets laid bare. Ah, there are worse reasons to vote for someone, I guess.)

[whometense]

31. C'mon.

What percentage of JK's female vote do you suppose is for, um, well, you know...

All's fair, right?? ;-)

Me, my votes for him have always been based STRICTLY on policy.

Ahem. Okay, so I lie...

[TayTay]

33. Yeah, me too!

Funny, I remember some of the Lt. Gov. race, but I was only 24 when that happened and I had just moved into Dorchester. I remember all the coffees and stuff. (Okay, and the bars, too.) That race does not stick out in my mind a whole lot. The Sen. race does a bit more because it was, in the beginning, a free for all. Everybody wanted to run. (Senate seats don't just fall the the trees, after all LOL!)
I remember it in bits and pieces. I had just gotten married, and was still setlling in. But I remember it being a big topic of conversation and all the events and appearances and fundraising in Dot. That was fun.

(Coffee with the candidates at someone's apartment in Five Corners. I think that was a mayorality race. Nothing like seing me at 10:30 in the monring without coffee. No wonder I don't remember it.)

[whometense]

34. ah, the coffees...

I first met JK at one of those. I was a young mother living in Somerville, and a neighbor across the street hosted one. I went mostly out of curiosity - I certainly remembered who he was and was curious to see how he'd evolved since his rebel days.

[elshiva]

36. Actually, I don't fault your reasoning at all.

The fact that he is a vet, makes him more experienced as a leader.

[TayTay]

37. Yes, yes, ah, that was my reason

Truly. I had sound reasons for voting for Kerry for the Senate. And being a veteran of the US Navy and having some of those Navy pics floating around were incidental. (Antithecally, so were the anit-war pics. I liked them both.)

See, I had a valid reason. And my valid reason has been validated. Nothing LLL to see here, move along now.

[elshiva]

38. LOL! It's OK to have some LLL reasons for voting

for him, but we all know those are not the only reasons. Definitely not just a pretty face...

[angrydemocrat]

39. LOL!

Now Now Tay Tay. It is perfectly ok to have LLL reasons LOL.

[TayTay]

40. I know, I know, but

geez, I have solid reasons for voting for everyone. I have vast knowledge of issues, I spoke to liberals in Cambridge and lunch-bucket Dems in Dorchester. I have read every damn book I could find, I

(really like those Navy pics. Damn, damn, damn, damn.)

Sigh! I have gotten better. Really I have.

Massachusetts chapter of the LLL reporting in for duty and humanity. Sigh! I accept it.

[whometense]

6. I really don't see

where Mitt's political base is. He's not popular around here at all, and I believe he'd have a lot of trouble getting reelected. He seems to me to be kind of a man without a country.

He's also oh-so-hollow. Kind of the anti-Kerry, really. Kerry's all seriousness and subsctance and Mitt is all - well, all persona and no person. Slick and sleazy.

[ginnyinWI]

7. the question is, though

whether they can do a PR job on him and sell him nationally. Oh well it's a long way off, and anything can happen.

[TayTay]

9. It's possible, but yuck

Romney, euoeweyyuckyuckyuck. I have no idea what voters see in that lying, two-faced, cold-hearted, cheap sumbitch. He has not been able to get one thing done in MA (Thanks be to gawd.) I just want him to lose so badly that he has to wear a bag on his head whenever he goes out in public. (I really think my utter resentment of the man has to do with that campaign commercial he ran showing him in just his swim trunks. Gag, cough, cough, cough Gag. He better not try that again in '06. We have laws against child abuse in this state. I think his ugly mug on my TV, where a kid could see it violates indecency standards.)

I hope that Kerry calls in all his chits on this guy and really, really lets loose on the bastard. (Gawd, is this too much to ask for? One damn takedown, that's all I want. Wipe that phoney smile right off his face.)

I am sorry for the vehemence of my resonse. I have a visceral response to lying, cheating, cold-hearted, phoney-bloney bastards that say one thing and do another. I want revenge. I want a takedown. I want..... well, I think you get the idea. And it could happen. (Ah, political hardball heaven.)

[ginnyinWI]

10. I feel your pain, taytay

Before * tapped him to be HHS sec., we had Tommy Thompson as gov. for almost 12 years! Not only a repub, but his face could stop a clock. He gave a big speech when he left, and cried. We were giving each other hi-fives. Now we have Dem Gov. Doyle--not my first choice, but he's ok.

[angrydemocrat]

13. Read This Tay Tay

Kerry asks Democrats to help defeat Romney
Friday, January 28, 2005
By DAN RING
[e-mail]


BOSTON - U.S. Sen. John F. Kerry is calling on Democrats in Massachusetts to help defeat Gov. W. Mitt Romney in next year's election.


Last year, Romney stumped for President George W. Bush and ripped Kerry when Kerry was the Democratic candidate for president. Romney accused Kerry of waffling on the war in Iraq and for voting for tax hikes nearly 100 times.


At the GOP National Convention, Massachusetts Republicans mocked Kerry with T-shirts that said "John Who?" in reference to Kerry's extended absence from the state during his campaign.


Kerry may be preparing for a little payback.


Taking up Massachusetts politics for the first time since he lost to Bush on Nov. 2, Kerry sent an e-mail to thousands of supporters, urging them to work at the grassroots for the state party.


"Here in Massachusetts, we have many important battles to fight in the next several years, beginning with re-electing Ted Kennedy to the United States Senate and winning back the governor's seat in 2006," Kerry wrote in the e-mail. "The Massachusetts Democratic Party needs your help to build a winning field operation all across the state and to help ensure statewide victories in 2006."


Kerry praised Democrats in Massachusetts for traveling to New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida and other states to help him in his contest against Bush.


In the e-mail titled "Make a Difference for Massachusetts," Kerry never mentioned Romney by name. Kerry urged Democrats to attend state party caucuses between Saturday and Feb. 12 to elect delegates to the party's statewide convention in Lowell May 14.


Jane E. Lane, a spokeswoman for the state Democratic Party, said yesterday the party's headquarters was flooded with calls after Kerry's eight-paragraph e-mail was sent late Wednesday. Lane said many people were heavily involved in the presidential election and now want to help in state elections.


Lane said Kerry is going to be "very, very involved" in the 2006 campaign. She said party leaders were grateful for the e-mail.


"We felt very honored he wanted to do this for us," Lane said. "It was the senator's idea."


Alex Dunn, political director for Romney, yesterday declined comment on Kerry's message. He said Romney looks forward to discussing his record and plans with whomever the Democrats nominate for governor next year.


Attorney General Thomas F. Reilly, a Springfield native, and Deval L. Patrick of Milton, former general counsel of Coca Cola Corp. and a former assistant attorney general for civil rights under former President William J. Clinton, are considering runs for the Democratic nomination for governor.


Kennedy, the state's senior senator in Washington, is also planning to seek re-election next year.


2005 MassLive.com. All Rights Reserved.

[Sydnie]

14. Here's the email

Looking back on the 2004 Campaign, one of the things I am most proud of is the support and dedication we received from our friends in Massachusetts. Thank you for everything you did for our campaign. Starting in the primaries right up until election day, so many of you gave hours of your time, your money and your enthusiasm towards achieving our shared vision of a stronger America and it really made a difference. We will always be grateful for what you did.

While we did not reach our goal, we still have much to be proud of.

With your critical help, we were able to swing New Hampshire, a state that voted for Bush in 2000, into the blue column because so many of you traveled there to join up with our great New Hampshire team to knock on doors and phone the homes of undecided Granite State voters. We can be proud too that while we were in New Hampshire canvassing and phoning for the Presidential campaign, we joined forces with Democrat John Lynch's Gubernatorial campaign and added great strength to their successful effort to defeat Republican incumbent Governor Craig Benson. And again, thanks to those of you who traveled many hours to Pennsylvania, Florida, Ohio and dozens of other states on our bus trips or on your own. Our Massachusetts team blazed an impressive trail.

But our work is not done. Here, in Massachusetts, we have many important battles to fight in the next several years, beginning with reelecting Ted Kennedy to the United States Senate and winning back the governor's seat in 2006. The Massachusetts Democratic Party needs your help to build a winning field operation all across the state and to help ensure statewide victories in 2006. A state party is only as strong as the grassroots leaders it develops and deploys. We learned first hand in the last election how important it is to have vibrant strong state parties 365 days a year, every year, and not just during the peak of the campaign cycle.

I encourage you to stay involved in the Massachusetts Democratic party by attending your local caucuses taking place between January 29th and February 12th. These events are important venues where your participation will add strength to the Party's efforts and impact the direction it will take statewide. They will also help shape the direction our State takes as we identify key issues and key fights to organize around.

If you need any assistance in locating Democratic Party caucuses in your area, please contact David Howard, Massachusetts Democratic party Volunteer Coordinator at 617-472-0637 or by email at [e-mail] or go to www.massdems.org to sign up for their volunteer list and e-mail list serve.

What you did during my campaign made an enormous difference and we can keep on making a difference in people's lives by staying together and fighting. Join the three million people on line at johnkerry.com and make a difference today through our active campaigns on foreign policy and chidlren's health care.

We will also continue to work to support Democratic candidates, parties and causes across the country starting in the elections of 2005 and 2006. And once again we will call on our friends in Massachusetts to help. We will be in touch in coming weeks with specific ways you can keep on making such a critical difference for Massachusetts, for our country and for the values and vision we share.

With deepest gratitude,

John Kerry

[TayTay]

19. Hehehehehehehehehe

Thanks! You warm me even unto the cockles of my heart. This is going to be such fun! I actually have a great deal of work to do. (My state caucus is Feb 12th, but we have a moribund town committee. Time for a makeover. Then I have to get people in my friggin town to wake up and smell the rot of Romneyism. That bastard took the town last time. I have work to do. I want him gone, real bad.)

Thanks! I really, really , really want to see a well-funded effort to dethrone that idiot. I am so happy now. (Payback for running around badmouthing the state and standing with the Idiot King last year is gonna be fun! Thanks JK! BTW, that rat-bastard does well in the Merrimack Valley, could we have a nice State Dems rally, you and Teddy K showing up? That would be nice. And you have always had better hair, okay.)

Lucidly, well almost

TayTAy

[angrydemocrat]

22. Well thought you would enjoy knowing that

Kerry is planning on helping stomp a mudhole in Romney's sorry ass. I know I sure did. That will be as fun as stomping Corsi's biggoted sorry ass! John is ready to fight Tay Tay he is tired of all the sorry asses like Romney, Corsi, and Bush! I think it is great and I will help him all the way in his fights. But to tell you the truth at this point he is so pissed I don't think he needs much help he's is on the march pretty damn well by himself! LOL.

[angrydemocrat]

17. I Don't See That Fool Having A Political Base Either

And from what I have been hearing there are plenty of people pissed at that bastard now including republicans. I heard they are pissed of the Procter & Gamble merger with Gillette. Because Boston has already had to deal with two other major take overs in the past several years. Something about Fleet Boston Financial and John Hancock Financial. Anyhow a lot of people are pissed over the South Boston Gillette razor factory. People are saying he is more worried about his national ambitions and not enough on on issues in Massachusetts. They say he let it happen right under his nose and never put up a fight over it. So he has pissed a lot of people off over that little issue alone.

[TayTay]

20. True, all too true.

Now, though, he is dangerous. (All rats, when cornered, are dangerous.) I saw him on TV last night make goo-goo eyes with local bankers and getting a new business loan program set up. Can't hide the fact that under this govnah, we are down 46,000 jobs and losing population. (Well, who'd want to stay with him as Govnah. Honestly. I look at him and I almost want to flee the state.)

46,000 jobs lost. Yup, sounds like a Repub alright.

[GRLMGC]

25. Crappy governors suck

I should know, I have Arnold :puke:

Good luck to you MA residents. I hope you get rid of your douchebag governor.

[TayTay]

27. It should be a fun race.

I would love to see the Dem establishment get together and really back a Dem candidate. That would be nice. (And organized, hmm, not sure Dems can do organized. We should give it a try, though.)

[karynnj]

41. Fineman on Matthews mentioned Romney in 2008

as the Bush family choice - after all he's from a blue state.

Also interesting was the the Matthews meter asked who would be best for a comeback Kerry or Gore. This led to a weird result - the panel was talking about Gore's possible resurrection - so the result Kerry 8, Gore 4 was totally discordant with the discussion. -They simply brushed it aside with the third choice is someone else.

Then to continue total weirdness, Matthews discussed the superbowl half time with Paul McCartney - making the point that if someone with Paul's "rap sheet" can become a good grownup there's hope for all of us! Paul's bad background that he cited was being a song writing partner of JL - who said the Beatles were bigger than Jesus and he was arrested for pot in Japan. Compared to his peers - 60s rock stars, Paul has probably always been clean cut.

[TayTay]

42. I can't watch Matthews anymore...

He never balances out his guests with one Rethug to one Dem. It's always too many Rethugs. That said, I'm happy to hear this. To me, this is a good sign that people are ready to move on from the 2004 campaign. Dean will be the focus for awhile because of his assuming the DNC Chair and John Kerry can go about doing what he said he would in the Senate. Everybody will be focussing on what we ought to be doing instead of looking backwards. I like this.

And Romney is a jerk. He is floundering badly in Massachusetts. (This is not just wishful thinking on my part.) He has no real deep popularity. He was unable to elect a single candidate to the MA legislator last year despite a huge fundraising effort and his personal committment of time and energy. This guy can be had, but state Dems have to unite and find a candidate to back unanimously. I think Kerry is well and truly pissed at Romney and I think he is going to be all over the state backing whoever the Dems nominate for Govnah. Gawd, I hope so. It's been 14 years. How long do we have to wander in the desert of Gubernatorial politics here?

If I were Kerry I would want to take Romney out at the knees and make sure that my fingerprints were all over the damn ax. ("Yeah, you bastard, I cut you down. Tell your Rethugs friends about it too. Get the hell out of here, this is my state you assh*le. Run for President my ass. You can't even run MA State Senate races.")

What, I don't get to be really mean every once in a while?

[ginnyinWI]

43. I can't either. Eric Alterman has said

that they usually stack it against the left by having political professionals on the right, then on the left some "hack journalist". Here is the article: (click on "Pundit Limbo")

http://www.thenation.com/directory/view.mhtml?t=0A05