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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 05:10 PM
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"Why I Stay Loyal to Kerry": really beautiful DailyKos diary
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:24 PM
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1. I'm still reading it and I went to the link to the article about Kerry in
High School. I've never seen that one before. This is it
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/06/opinion/main610517.shtml
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:29 PM
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3. I love that article
Aw, who wants to be popular with folks like that anyway. He didn't even like it there. No wonder.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 07:43 PM
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4. That is a way cool story
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 05:20 AM
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6. I didn't even think it was possible to love him any more
But yet my heart keeps expanding for him, every time I read things like this. I was unpopular for many of the same reasons in high school - being too smart, being too ambitious, not being careless and blase about my intelligence or my acheivements. Like Kerry, I can count maybe two real friends from high school. He's so like me in so many ways it's rather scary. I love him more and more with each passing day. :loveya:
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 06:38 PM
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2. yeah that was a great post! n/t
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-05 11:25 PM
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5. Wow, still have to read it all just wow!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 11:54 AM
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7. Yeah, but it's still psycho-babble
Writing biographical information on someone else is the single scariest thing I can think of. It's so easy to over emphasize one thing to the detrement of something else. I like the conclusions in that article, that the national media wanted Kerry to stick to the script, that he was a 'Brahmin', though that is unsupported by the evidence. He is undoubtedly a serious and thoughtful man. He sometimes takes a few sentences to explain a thought or position. The national (and local) press took this and ran with it past reserved, past aloof and into coldness. Ahhhmmmm, I beg to differ.

I think the High School stuff is interesting in what it seems to have NOT fostered in Kerry; greed, indifference and an adherence to cliquishness. Perhaps some of that ability to stand alone on an issue comes from here. But I also think that the whole Yale experience, wherein he was taken seriously in an academic environment and encouraged to indulge his interests was also formative.

But, in my own mind, for what it's worth, I think the Vietnam experience was the biggest influence on the guy we see today. Privilege, background and education allowed him to enlist as an officer, what happened after that is completely fascinating. The 'Best and the Brightest' were the ones who dreamed up that war and were people who travelled in those Harvard/Yale circles. And they were the ones who lied to the country and to him. (Actually to his face, if I remember correctly.) When he got back from the war, he identified with the common serviceman in a sort of 'people's revolt.' Was that an 'in your face' to the country's Ruling Class (as well as a stand on principle?) I always thought that it was and appreciated it as an egalitarian position. Hmmm, completely captivating thoughts.

The national press is lazy and is always looking for the Cliff Notes version of a person. Aha, we found this bio fact, well, that's it, the guy is 'solved.' Write the script and move on. I have always found Kerry to be much more interesting than this, a complicated and fascinating guy. So many contradictions, so many interesting stands. So much to have 'grown up' from and into. A real bio would be a wondrous thing. (I think my favorite things in 'Tour of Duty' are the personality glimpses, Kerry taking peanut butter and jelly sandwiches on board the boat, the sleepwalking and talking, hanging out with the crew. That is just catnip to me.)
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 12:52 PM
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8. taytay,
I'm sitting here nodding in agreement with your post. Especially the part about Vietnam--a very formative part of his younger years. And I think his parents instilled in him values that maybe other parents of his peers did not--that sense of duty and responsibility. Same thing with the Kennedys, I think. That makes all the difference: a sense of entitlement v.s. a sense of noblesse-oblige.


catnip! lol--yeah!
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 01:02 PM
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9. This article seems like a condensed version
of that one from TNR (same author) that I keep promising to look for and then promptly forgetting about.

Lots more catnip in that one, as I recall - going to look for it now.

But before I go, did you read this one? http://kerrylibrary.forumflash.com/index.php?showtopic=4&hl=Franklin#

It's written by Will Pitt and is a fascinating account of the NY meeting Kerry had with all the NY intellectuals when he was trailing badly behind Dean in the polls.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-05-05 03:55 PM
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10. Catnip, yes, well, ahm
I didn't really mean to say that, it undercuts my whole post. (Geez, how difficult it is to write bio, how the psycho-babble instinct can take over, don't dismiss other relevent parts, etc. - then, bang, catnip. Way to go, TayTay. How to undercut yourself.)

Okay, there are catnip moments, I admit it.:evilgrin: (Blush, blush, blush) And Whome, that link has whole damn fields of organic catnip growing in the warm sunshine. (Drool!)

I am going to have to find my favorite catnip moment and post it here, but we are really, really girlie this weekend, you kow that. Is there something in the water?:evilgrin:
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 01:43 AM
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11. Being girly is so much fun.
Sometimes I get tired of being so mature. So catnip away!!!! I adore Charlie Pierce's profile from Esquire because I love the way Pierce writes and because he really seems to capture JK the man in a direct have-a-beer-with way - probably because he starts the article out having a beer with him!!!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 01:46 AM
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12. I read the GQ profile
Edited on Sun Feb-06-05 01:57 AM by TayTay
And he had a beer with JK too. That was great. The photo spreads were okay, not great. I loved the line where he asked JK how he could translate his appeal in a one-on-one meeting to the general public. So nice. And some of the NYTimes articles were great. I liked the Todd Purham. Sigh!

Edit: Btw, my fav catnip line is the one Kerry made about his recovery from surgery and how he kept up on Senate business by watching C-Span. He said something to the effect that there is nothing quite like watching C-Span while on drugs. Catnip heaven.

I think my contributions to this group for posterity's sake are the LLL line and now catnip. Oh dear. This is not wonky at all.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 02:43 AM
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13. It's so cute, though, and appropriate
Catnip means just a little giddy--not full-out LLL! It means stuff I could allow my husband to read--LOL. :)
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-06-05 05:42 PM
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14. Completely agree.
Catnip is perfect. Fun and a little exciting, but not too naughty. Wonk has its place, but I do love catnip... :evilgrin:
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