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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 06:01 AM
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Australian blog: Kerry WAS RIGHT
http://www.clubtroppo.com.au/2007/01/12/militant-islam-less-soldiering-more-policing/


Militant Islam: Less soldiering, more policing
Posted by D W Griffiths on Friday, January 12, 2007

Back in 2002, then aspiring US presidential candidate John Kerry began arguing that “the war on terror is far less of a military operation and far more of an intelligence-gathering law enforcement operation”...

To my ear back then, this sounded like one of Kerry’s more thoughtful contributions. In the struggle against terrors of various sorts over many years, police-style actions of all sorts have usually trumped conventional military force. A series of 20th-century conflicts, not least Vietnam, demonstrates that armoured brigades or infantry platoons do their best work fighting conventional battles. They cannot successfully chase down loose-knit, decentralised networks of militants. Once militants decide to avoid fighting in the open, there are few hard targets for cruise missiles to pick out. Human targets prove even tougher to identify. Most targets are surrounded by civilians who do not react well to seeing Hellfires flying through their neighbours’ windows. You have to convince civilian populations in downtown Islamabad and Mogadishu to turn militants in - a task for which Private John Kryswicki from Duluth, Michigan is almost uniquely ill-equipped. So emphasising intelligence-gathering and law enforcement - “police work”, if you like - sounded the sensible option.

End the “war” and start winning

It is now popular to disparage John Kerry, but it seems to me that back in 2002 he got the “war on terror” exactly right. Here’s a fuller 2002 quote, taken from, of all places, the US Republican Party Web site:

    (W)hat I think all of us need to focus on is the fact that the rhetoric of this war is overblown in some ways and not focused properly in others. This is not a war as we have known it. This is not a war in which there’s a front-line or the troops are going out every day on control. This is fundamentally an intelligence operation and the law enforcement operation and a diplomatic operation. On all three fronts, we have not been doing adequately.

Kerry has first-hand experience of this issue: he was among US officers arguing for counterinsurgency tactics while on duty in Vietnam. And in 2002, he was right. Our rhetoric is part of the problem. “The war on terror” is one of the silliest political phrases of recent years. Once you frame the fight against terror as a war, you almost automatically start marching down the path most likely to bring failure. You deploy troops and air support. You shoot missiles and bullets at targets. You alienate populations. You guarantee that for every terrorist and militant you kill, two more will spring up to take their place...


I'd never seen this blog before, but it looks like an interesting one.

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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:41 AM
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1. thanks for this
I hope these things get spread around: it's about time Kerry got the credit he deserves.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 02:05 PM
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2. In December...
...on December 21st (to be exact), Richard Holbrooke was on O'Reilly ( my watching was a total accident :) ) and SAID John Kerry was right. I posted that on the Kerry blog, and GV responded that she would love video or a transcript of that. So would I. I have been checking the FoxNews website ever since, and they haven't posted it (either video OR a transcript). I guess they must be very selective about what they want people to see from O'Reilly. :eyes: Anyway, people ARE saying it. It's not getting media play, IMHO. Just like in 2004. I think you can order show video and transcripts for a price (not inexpensive) if anyone wants to see the interview. It was on "The O'Reilly Factor" on December 21, 2006 and the guest was Former U. N. Ambassador Richard Holbrooke. This interview needs to be seen.:patriot:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:06 AM
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5. These turnarounds DO need to be collected. George Will and other RW pundits
have said the same about Kerry being right on terror issue. We need to collect them and make a YouTube segment out of them.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-14-07 11:08 AM
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6. Excellent idea. n/t
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 02:06 PM
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3. Interesting. It is good to see people catching up to and realizing that Kerry was right! n/t
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-13-07 09:49 PM
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4. Kerry's thinking on this is 100% correct.
Permit me to throw you a bit of a curve. I was reading an article in the Jan 8th New Yorker and it seemed to me that it could be applied to the situation the US is in right now. The article was by Malcom Gladwell ({i]Blink, The Tipping Point and, as with all his analytical articles, turns on looking at things through a different lens from the common wisdom. His article was, nominally, about Enron and how and why that company collapsed. The gist of the article though is about how the great problem of our age is not solving puzzles, which Gladwell says involved getting the right pieces of information and the getting them to fit together, but dealing with mysteries which involve huge amounts of information that we can't decipher because it's too much to deal with.

There was a paragraph in the article that made me think of Sen. Kerry and his approach to our troubles in the Middle East and to our Foreign Policy in general.

With the collapse of the Eastern bloc, Treverton and others have argued that the situation facing the intelligence community has turned upside down. Now most of the world is open, not closed. Intelligence officers aren’t dependent on scraps from spies. They are inundated with information. Solving puzzles remains critical: we still want to know precisely where Osama bin Laden is hiding, where North Korea’s nuclear-weapons facilities are situated. But mysteries increasingly take center stage. The stable and predictable divisions of East and West have been shattered. Now the task of the intelligence analyst is to help policymakers navigate the disorder. Several years ago, Admiral Bobby R. Inman was asked by a congressional commission what changes he thought would strengthen America’s intelligence system. Inman used to head the National Security Agency, the nation’s premier puzzle-solving authority, and was once the deputy director of the C.I.A. He was the embodiment of the Cold War intelligence structure. His answer: revive the State Department, the one part of the U.S. foreign-policy establishment that isn’t considered to be in the intelligence business at all. In a post-Cold War world of “openly available information,” Inman said, “what you need are observers with language ability, with understanding of the religions, cultures of the countries they’re observing.” Inman thought we needed fewer spies and more slightly batty geniuses.

http://www.newyorker.com/printables/fact/070108fa_fact


That sounds like Kerry's approach to me. The puzzle solvers sound like the current Admin. The Bushies posit finding all the pieces and putting them together and then we will have solved the Middle East. Kerry deals with it as a mystery and understands that it requires people who can deal with insight and who can interpret various mounds of data to come out with conclusions. There is a world of difference here.
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