Climate Science fraud and Reselling the War hearings 3/19/07

[TayTay]

Really interesting stuff.

Cong. Waxman is holding a hearing at 10AM similar to the one held in Commerce back in early Feb that examined the White House culpability in changing and refuting the science of climate change in official reports. A lot of the same people are testifying this morning as did at the Senate Committee. (This was the Senate hearing at which Sen. Kerry destroyed the Bush Admin rep on the White House as regards the science of climate change and global warming.)

ON CAPITOL HILL
Global Warming Research
Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) chairs an Oversight and Gov't Reform Cmte. hearing on claims of poli-
tical interference with government scientists & their research on climate change. Witnesses include James Hansen, Dir., NASA Goddard Inst. for Space Studies; John Connaughton, Council on Environmental Quality & others

www.c-span.org

Also, C-Span is televising a news conference from the Move America Forward Foundation about the new ads campaign they are launching to win support for the Iraq War. (If you can stomach this, here is the website for this extremist RW group: http://www.moveamericaforward.org/index.php/MAF/AboutUs) This is on C-Span 2 at 10 AM. (I am watching this one. I am just a glutton for punishment, I guess.)

News Conference
War in Iraq Advertising Campaign
Move America Forward
Washington, District of Columbia (United States)
ID: 197197 - 03/19/2007 - 1:00 - No Sale

Johns, Deborah Mother
Dixon, Robert Acting Executive Director, Move America Forward
Argel, Debra Director, Move America Forward, Military Outreach

Move Forward America announced its "Win in Iraq" advertising campaign.

www.c-span.org

[fedupinBushcountry]

1. OMG

is this woman speaking John O'Neil dressed as a woman? This has SVBT written all over it, disgusting.

[TayTay]

2. Yup. Same old, same old

But today is the 4th Anniversary of the start of this misbegotten war. This is how the Rethugs mark the anniversary, by calling for more war and calling their opponents cowards and freaks.

That's why I watch this stuff, as a reminder of who it is we are really opposed to and what it is they actually stand for as a group. These people are vile.

[fedupinBushcountry]

3. Yep

don't you know they are the REAL Americans we are just rat bastid liberals.

[TayTay]

4. I got all I cared to get from that hate-fest

and have switched to the other hearing that Cong. Waxman is holding. I got the Winnut point: War is good, Bush is god-like and libruls are bad.

Sigh!

[karynnj]

5. Almost as bad, but she may believe what she is saying - and they are using her

She really is sickening. I see no reason not to believe that she sees this as truth.

The problem is that these are emotional ads that draw on the real genuine support for the troops in a time of war.

She is not saying anything that McCain didn't say in the Senate, when he said you can't support the troops unless you support their mission. Although she was nastier - saying it was an oxymoron - as in moron - he is more guilty as he likely knows the genuine sincerity of at least some opponents. She may not have that personal experience.

[TayTay]

6. Rep Sauder just ripped THK and Kerry

and implied that the fact that this witness took an award from a Heinz Foundation and that made him go for a Kerry endorsement in 2004.

Witness:
Dr. James Hansen, Director, Goddard Institute for Space Studies, National Aeronautics and Space Administration
Rep Sauder website: http://souder.house.gov/

Hansen got the Heinz Foundation award in 1995:

Clip from NJ newspaper on it.

Scientist gets a prize to warm the heart Jerseyan who outlined greenhouse effect is honored with prestigious Heinz Award
Star-Ledger, The (Newark, NJ(02-05-2001)

By WAYNE WOOLLEY

James Hansen, the New Jersey scientist credited with pushing global warming to the forefront of environmental causes, is among six winners of the prestigious Heinz Award, which honors people who enhance the lives of others.

Hansen, who lives in Ridgewood and is director of NASA's Goddard Institute of Space Studies in New York, and the other winners will receive the $250,000 awards at a March 5 ceremony in Washington. The awards will be officially announced today.

Hansen's 1988 testimony before a congressional panel gave some of the earliest warnings about "greenhouse effect" gases, such as carbon dioxide and methane, which he and other scientists believe accumulate in the earth's atmosphere and lead to a gradual warming of the planet.

The 59-year-old climatologist said that he hopes that his winning the award will encourage other scientists to speak up when they perceive a threat that public policy-makers should address.

"I have kind of been known for speaking my mind and I think that scientists sometimes are reluctant to do that," Hansen said in an interview yesterday.

The Heinz Family Foundation Award honors the memory of U.S. Sen. John Heinz (R-Pa.), an heir to the Heinz food foundation who was killed in a 1993 plane crash.

Teresa Heinz, the senator's widow and foundation chairwoman, said the recipients "represent a rare and wonderful blend of expertise, courage and concern for the next generation."

Hansen said that although he did not believe it figured into his selection for the award, he said that the senator had supported him when business leaders and some Republicans attacked him for advocating a steep reduction in the burning of fossil fuels by vehicles and industry.

"He was a Republican and he came to my defense," Hansen said. "I found him to be the most thoughtful of all the people in Washington."

Hansen said that since he first issued his warning, the industrialized nations of the world have reduced their output of "greenhouse effect" gases.

"But I think there's still value in pointing out that 'business as usual' could still lead to severe climate changes," Hansen said.

[karynnj]

7. That is beyond pathetic

given his credentials - also it would be very prescient of THK to give an award in 1995 to influence an endorsement for 2004! (especially given his 1988 testimony - endorsing Kerry was a natural.)

Issa is a creep too - he seems to say that if your work is government funded you can't complain against the administration.

He also criticized his supporting Kerry. He said that he liked McCain best - but his favorite Senator was John Heinz.

[TayTay]

8. Sorry, not 1995, but 2001. My mistake

I looked it up and it was 2001. Sorry.

[karynnj]

10. I obviosly didn't catch that either

still I doubt that was the reason. Especially given that his key issue is global warming - Bush vs Kerry seems a no brainer.

[TayTay]

9. Issa just repeated the smear

and said that the 2001 Award unduly influenced Dr. Hansen.

Waxman just said that Issa is smearing Hansen. (Thanks Henry!)

Issa is repeating this, saying that the $250,000 Award changed his opinion and agenda.

[karynnj]

11. AWWWWWKKKKKK!!!!!!!

Hanson supports McCain more because of his work on campaign finance reform. Kerry is SOOO much better on that - and McCain is a fraud.

(In clarifying why he supported McCain, then Kerry, but liked Heinz best.

[TayTay]

12. That's okay. This goes to witness credibility

This witness just said that he did nothing because of his Heinz Award and voted for Sen. Kerry based on his work on the environment, not because of the Award that THK gave.

There was no quid pro quo and this statement proves it.

[MH1]

13. More proof - can someone find Bush quotes

where he is questioning global warming, saying he won't pursue Kyoto, etc? I know they're out there, I just don't have them handy.

If you put the Bush quotes next to some Kerry quotes (which will be easy to find) on where they each address the question of global warming - it should be VERY easy to show why any scientist who supports aggressive action against man-made climate change, would support Kerry over Bush.

It isn't even remotely a contest.

[TayTay]

14. Rethugs shouldn't be smearing THK

and saying that because Hansen got a Heinz Award, he endorsed Kerry in 04. That is the smear.

[MH1]

15. True...AND.. the Heinz Award recipients are selected by a panel, not by THK.

But I'm just saying it's also patently ridiculous that it would be quid pro quo, because obviously global warming is an issue of primary importance to Hansen, and if you compare the records of the candidates, there is no way Hansen would have endorsed Bush. He clearly would have endorsed Kerry regardless of the award.

[karynnj]

16. Sorry for that reaction - you're right of course

Had he sounded like us - it would have been less convincing - he sounds like an independent who leans Republican (not atypical for Ridgewood, a very nice town).