Calling Kerrycrats! Please vote in my "Would you support Hillary poll.

[saracat]

It has gotten"Clarked" and Kerry is losing!I need some Kerrycrats to participate!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1581530&mesg_id=1581530

[JI7]

1. Kerry loses in all DU polls

and Clark wins all of them.

you shouldn't worry about DU polls or any online polls too much.

[JohnKleeb]

5. As I told everyone the other night

Clark would win the sexiest dem woman poll if he were put in, I still dont see the appeal but ahh well. Glad youre back btw JI7.

[sandnsea]

2. Please post a link

Although I'm very angry at Hillary today. Did you hear her and her stupid "religious kids don't get pregnant" bullshit? I'm probably over-amping what she said, but geezo, I'm so sick of that crap.

We can talk about reproductive resonsiblity without going the religious values abstinence route.

[saracat]

3. I am pissed too! That is partly the reason for the poll!

Do you support Hillary Clinton as the Democratic Presidential nominee for (Poll) . I guess this doesn't link. I really don't know how to post a link! It is in GD. Sorry. I tried!

[sandnsea]

6. Saaaraacaaat....

linky please!!

[saracat]

7. I tried! I don't know how!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1581530&mesg_id=1581530

[saracat]

8. This is it! Yay!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=1581530&mesg_id=1581530

[sandnsea]

11. Okay, I voted

That was a whiny saaaaraacaat, not a SARACAT. kay?

Now you know how to post a link. Is good, yes? :)

[saracat]

12. Thank you. Is good. Yes!

[JohnKleeb]

4. religious kids don't get pregant?

Thats crap. Yeah I am sick of her crap too honestly.

[sandnsea]

9. She was speaking so eloquently

Then all of a sudden it was like she swerved to avoid hitting a dog or something. She said we all know that kids with values and religious upbringing are more likely to practice abstinence and not become pregnant; and we should support that and bla bla.

:wow:

She should come to my town. My daughter's friends who got pregnant as teens. A fundy, 2 Catholics, and 1 girl who didn't go to church that I know of. So puhleeze. The one Catholic girl, her mother had a shitfit because I let the girls walk to the dept. store when they were 14. Literally, 5 blocks from my house in my teeny little town. She had some whacked out idea that people would think girls walking on the street were whores. :shrug: So *I* was the bad parent. So now, her daughter was the one who was pregnant and not married and the mom is the one who has left her husband and is whoring all over town. :eyes:

And Hillary thinks she needs to listen to THEM???

(Kleeb, sweetie, I really really really want you to write a few paragraphs for our blog on your interning. YOUR name and everything! We made TPM yesterday!)

[WildEyedLiberal]

14. Hey quick could I get a link for the Hillary stuff

About religious kids not getting pregnant? I have a Deaniac friend who doesn't believe she said this.

[sandnsea]

15. It was on MSNBC

I'll do a search and see what I can come up with. Tell them they can tussle with me if they don't believe it. :evilgrin:

[sandnsea]

16. Here

"...And girls who give birth as teenagers face a long, uphill battle to economic self-sufficiency and pride. Clearly we do have our work cut out for us.

Research shows that the primary reason that teenage girls abstain is because of their religious and moral values. We should embrace this --and support programs that reinforce the idea that abstinence at a young age is not just the smart thing to do, it is the right thing to do..,"


http://clinton.senate.gov/~clinton/speeches/2005125A05.html

It isn't that I disagree that it's better for teens to wait to have sex, I just strenuously object to this religious nonsense or that this is the best way to encourage teens to wait.

[Blue_In_AK]

18. That's really not true

and never has been. Even back when I was in high school, back in the Dark Ages, it was the Baptist fundy girls that were getting pregnant and having to drop out. Their church wouldn't let them dance, co-ed swim or do anything else for fun, so what else was left but the wild thing in the back seat of daddy's car?

[Der Blaue Engel]

25. My fundie sister's 17-yr-old has a 2-yr-old

And now she's headed into a Jesus Rehab Clinic (straight out of the movie "Saved") for a year because she's on meth....

Religious teens who are told lies about their bodies and their risks are far more likely to get pregnant than well-educated kids with access to condoms.

Period. (No pun intended.) ;)

[GRLMGC]

17. OH HELL NO!

"Nice" religious girls don't get pregnant? Hillary, that's bullshit and you know it. What the fuck is up with her? I ignored her faith based programs comment, because I thought "Hey, she's a religious person". This is just too much though. It's just plain ignorant.

[WildEyedLiberal]

13. WTF

Way to pander to the fundies, Hillary, but come a little closer, I got a clue for you.

(Psst. They are never going to vote for you. Ever.)

[ginnyinWI]

19. and this after a recent report

that abstinence-only classes tend to make the rate of sexual activity go UP in teens! :shrug: Somebody get that KoolAid out of her hands!!

It's logical: fundy teens don't want to admit that they might have sex, so they take no precautions, and certainly couldn't ask their parents for the pill! So--sex and babies. It doesn't seem as bad to them if they didn't plan to do it! :(

[pamela]

10. done n/t

[elshiva]

20. First of all, I'm not voting in that silly poll.

Second, I still love Hillary Clinton. That does NOT mean I agree with her on everything. I think that was a stupid comment about religious kids not getting pregnant, but she is a good Senator. I did co-sponsor that bill she and and Boxer are trying to pass on Voting Rights.
I don't like the hating on Hillary on this thread. Yeah, she said something stupid, but come on now...

[saracat]

21. Her voting record stinks, Elshiva.

Check it out. She isn't a liberal. She would stab us in the back quicker than you could bink an eye. Please check out her votes. They are not good.I used to like her too, but this isn't a question a one vote it is many. There is a reason so many repugs get alond with her. I don't hate her and I hope she loosens up and is reelected to the Senate but I would NEVER vote for her for president.

[elshiva]

23. I'd only vote for her if she got the nomination.

I am a yellow dog Dem.

[sandnsea]

24. 2008 will be interesting

Just had a conversation with a Republican friend. Long story, I'm going to write it up.

Anyway, he says this is the Republicans last chance for him. He doesn't know what he'll do in 2008, but if they blow it he's done. I said I don't know what I'm going to do either, if we run Hillary. And we both just sat there saying "wtf is going to happen to this country".

Nobody votes in 2008? :shrug:

[Blaukraut]

22. Voted

At the risk of seeming stupid - where do all these Clarkies come from? Do other Clark websites get alerted whenever there is a poll with Clark in it? Good grief. lol
As to Hillary, I've lost respect for her a while ago, and Bill shortly after that, when both of them started in with this faith-based garbage.
What utter nonsense to claim that religious and moral values keep teen girls from getting pregnant.
I grew up in Germany, where Catholicism is practiced in a much stricter fashion than here. In the US, Catholics are quite liberal compared to those back in Europe.
In my teenage days it seemed that most of the 'good, church-going, catholic' girls were sexually active, and NOT using birth control because they were either afraid to talk to their parents about taking the pill or too ashamed to purchase other forms of contraceptives.
(As an aside - in Germany parental permission was required for a contraceptive prescription if the young woman in question was under 18.)

[JohnKleeb]

26. Kerry

Feingold is good too.