"Too Liberal and Secular"

[elshiva]

A week ago David Brooks characterized the Democrats, which Dean attracts as "too liberal and secular," not what our party needs. Liberal and secular. What does it mean?
Dean often makes some appeal to evangelicals in his recent speeches. Of course, he is not an evangelical, but he is a Christian. Most liberal Christians do not reference their faith unless they are asked about. The emphasis is more on living the faith than preaching about it.
Towards the end of his presidential campaign, he started talking more about his faith. I don't think it was good for him politically, but I think he was honest about it. Dean made some comments about the staying power of Jesus' message. But what was so damning (to the press, not God) was that he said, in terms much more specific and scientific than in Kerry's gay marriage response in the third debate, that God made gay people.
I'm sorry I don't know where I'm going with this. I just am fed up with the fundies controlling Christianity and the White House. Personally, I believe Jesus is more accepting of kinds of people than the fundies make him out to be.

[ginnyinWI]

1. imho

David Brooks hasn't got a clue!

[elshiva]

2. David Brooks is a windbag.

I'm tired of his RW mantras already. PBS just employs him and Carlson Tucker to say they have space for conservatives.

[JI7]

3. Brooks is an asshole

he always starts out some shit as if he is on the side of the liberals or at least reasonable but he always ends off making a point in favor of right wingers.

[muse]

4. The idiocy of Brooks comments are that there are other religious people

who are Dems - Muslims, Hindus and Jews, for example - so he is not just attacking Christian Democrats. I think people forget that our party is inclusive of everyone, including devout religious people of many different faiths.

[ginnyinWI]

5. yes and

where does he get off telling Democrats what's good for our party anyway? Who put him in charge? I'd rather to the opposite of what they advise.
:spank:

[elshiva]

6. Yes there are some very religious Democrats

who are not Christian. I remember reading this odd Cal Thomas Dean-bashing piece wherein Thomas indirectly accused Dean for not being a true Christian because he married a Jew and his children are Jewish. That's so sad to me because it underlines the myth that a candidate HAS TO be Christian.

[GRLMGC]

7. Whoa!

That's fucked up! Fucking Cal Thomas. What the hell is wrong w/ him?

[elshiva]

8. Cal Thomas is a rabid homophobe.

He was on with Bill Moyers defending "Christian" homophobia with Biblical fundamentalism. Good ol' Bill was going good against him as a liberal Christian, love your neighbor sort.

[GRLMGC]

9. I'll kick his ass

I hate bigoted assholes. They deserve brutal asskickings!

[elshiva]

10. Don't kick his ass, seriously.

That's not going to teach him Christian(Jewish/Hindu/Muslim...etc.) love.
I don't know what will, seriously.

[GRLMGC]

11. but but but

Imagine the satisfaction I'll get out of it. Just imagine it

[elshiva]

12. Not worth it, trust me!

I've tried it before. I stepped on some bullies toes who teased me. The thrill lasts about two seconds than the mean people get even meaner. It's pointless. Always non-violence.

[GRLMGC]

13. In reality, I'd never kick someone's ass

It's not in my nature. Fantasizing about it, however, is a different story.

[ginnyinWI]

15. Cal Thomas

is one of those miserable,hateful little men that deserve their own special place in hell. In fact, that's what their lives must be already--can you just imagine living like that, so full of venom?

[JohnKleeb]

14. David Brooks thinks White Espicolian Protestants are born to rule the US

He's a fucktard. :puke:.

[elshiva]

18. I am a half Episcopalian and we ARE NOT

born to rule the USA. Then again, I will again remind you that while Poppy and Barb are Episcopalians, Dubya is an evangelical United Methodist. Then again Dean is a former Episcopalian, too. Personally, I wish the white Christian lock on power would disolve.

[Vektor]

16. Brooks can kiss my ass

right BETWEEN the cheeks.

[sandnsea]

17. Democrats are skeery

Oooh, run away, run away. That's what he means. Fuck him.