as one of the Kerry group, I'd just like to suggest many of us join PDA

[NoodleBoy]

Progressive Democrats of America, that is.

Even though it seems like it was founded in the ashes of the Dean and Kucinich campaign, I think alot of early Kerry supporters could potentially find a home there.

There is, of course, a tiny amount of anti-Kerry bitterness (c'mon, defeating their guy, then not raising a fuss about voter fraud like they did, it's hard not to blame them), as there is in most subgroups of our Party, but whatever.

I remember JohnKleeb talking about how some of the Deaniacs talk as though Kerry had no grassroots support, well, we could definitely shut alot of those guys up if we started getting involved in PDA, as well as giving us all a conduit to channel the energy we got from John and still have.

Just a suggestion.

[JI7]

1. yeah, but we don't need the PDA to do it

as JohnKleeb said, he had already been doing the grassroots campaigning for Kerry. just as many others did. why is what he did worth any less than if it was some PDA member.

[NoodleBoy]

2. it's a fast growing organization

if we coordinate our efforts more, we'll all do that much better

[JI7]

3. i don't have a problem with others joining

i wont be doing it though. didn't part of their mission statement include some anti Kerry crap?

[sandnsea]

4. I've been doing grassroots all my life

Sierra Club, NOW, PTA, Girl Scouts, local election work, Second Harvest, Head Start, alcohol/drug treatment. When you work within those groups, you end up dealing with legislation sooner or later. What we need to do is gather together the groups that already exist and communicate and work together. The last thing I need is somebody who just woke up to the fact that there's a world out there telling ME about activism.

Sorry, I'm just sick of the attitude.

[JI7]

5. especially

when their definition of activism is supporting whatever they want and anyone who may disagree in any way is easily called a sell out , corporate whore, traitor etc.

for those who know anything about activism they know it involves getting into a lot of conflicts with people. and not always because those people are horrible corporate types.

[sandnsea]

6. Ain't that the truth

And sometimes you have to do the exact opposite of what you think is right because that's what the group thinks. I even had to advocate for a new school building plan when I thought we could find a cheaper way around. That's the way it goes. If you want people to listen to you and work with you, you have to be able to bend.

[JohnKleeb]

7. It wasnt just the Deaniacs it was the the Clarkies too

but I am agreeing with JI7 and Sandsnea here. Even though for some reason, I am signed up for PDA, I dont like their Kerry bashing because I feel Kerry is one of the best guys we got in congress and was one of the best presidential candidates we had in the 2004 primaries, he was not a reluctant vote, and PDA has shit like that on their website I believe and anyone who posts that on an activism website is just stupid.

[elshiva]

10. PDA is good, but I'd wish

they'd cut the anti-Kerry crap already. He's a solid Democrat and a great Senator.

[TheDonkey]

8. The Principles Project is another online message forming group

They are formed from the CDA, YDA, 2020 Dems, 21st Century Dems and others to come up with a solid platform.

http://www.principlesproject.com

[sandnsea]

9. I've been there

I signed up and posted once. Did it seem confusing to you? Or was that just me having a bad day or something?

[pauliedee]

11. Will do

[pauliedee]

12. Also DFA (Democracy for America)

Also DFA (Democracy for America). I joined that group and am trying to push Kerry on them...it is working...but some are bitter deaniacs.

[JI7]

13. do you think what you do helps ?

based on your posts on DU you are turning people off.