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Ancient Jewish scripts confirm Kerry's Bohemian origin

Source: CZECH NEWS AGENCY
Date: February 12, 2005

MOHELNICE, North Moravia, Feb 12 (CTK) - The civic association Respect and
Tolerance today for the first time exhibited priceless Jewish scripts
discovered by its members in the USA and Britain which also show that ancestors
of U.S. Senator John Kerry originate from Usov in the Sumperk region.

The new documents have complemented a wandering exhibition about Jewish
traditions, customs and history in Bohemia and Moravia, based on the collection
of Jewish museums in Prague.

Visitors can for the first time see "Modlitby Izraelituw," the first edition of
a Czech-Hebrew book of prayers from 1847 and the documents written and
illustrated by Abraham Leipniker from Usov.

"When studying the documents and further files we found that Leipniker was an
ancestor of Senator Kerry. Five generations of Kerry's ancestors lived in
Usov," Ludek Stipl from the association Respect and Tolerance told CTK today.

The association had contacted Kerry earlier and asked him whether it could
publish the information about his ancestors, Stipl said. "We have received a
consent from his personal secretary and today I could speak for the first time
about it. We are also in contact with Kerry's brother," Stipl said.

[JohnKleeb]

1. Thanks, thats very interesting

He may not be Irish but he's Czech and I am Slovak, so we're ethnically speaking, cousins :D. Oh and TayTay, took your advice last night to lay down, and it helped, only problem is I missed the SImpsons grrrrrrr.

[TayTay]

2. Good boy! Listen to your blog.mom!

I'm glad you're feeling better. Sorry about The Simpsons. Maybe someone will have a tape for you to catch up on.

My Aunt was a Czech. She was a 'war bride' that come over after WWII. She had to escape over the fields in '47 in order to get out and all.

[JohnKleeb]

3. Well I still feel crappy but I am all right

Czech women are beautiful IMO :). My mom's mom is Slovak, I know a little of the language, very few though, Ive actually studied some Slovene which is what my mom's dad is in my spare time but I can't learn it since language and I dont do well. Is everyone in Massachuetts, a WASP, Jewish, Polish, Irish, or Italian btw :D. Just teasing.

[TayTay]

4. Well, I'm a 'mixed' myself.

My Dad's people (direct paternal link) go back to Boston (well, Watertown, MA) in 1636. (And we can trace back further, to Essex in England.) The family has had a branch in this area (and Gardner, MA) for 369 years. (I think that makes me a native here. I guess I have deep New England roots. Whatever.) My brother is into geneology and he keeps sending me reminders that a lot of my ancestors arrived here, got a job, got comfy and just never left. His latest and greatest send was that great-something-grandfather built this old place in Ipswich, MA (http://www.whipple.org/photos/johnwhipplehouse.html) I am related to the Whipple's through marriage.

The other sides of my family are French (Arrived in Montreal in 1656.) French from Nova Scotia. Then German when my great-gradmother came over around 1880. And My Dad's Mom was Irish. (And we have Six Nation, Iriquois blood from somewhere, but I forget who married who. My brother knows this stuff, I kinda care, kinda don't. I am attracted and repelled at being related to all those Puritans. They were hardly warm and cuddly folks, they established a theocracy and they were also ornery enough to forment rebellion and not take shit from some foreign King. Maybe they weren't all bad. Ah, whatever.)

If any of you have geneology nuts in the family, you know they send you stuff about dead people a lot. One marginally interesting thing is that some of my long-dead used to own land that was sold to the Winthrops in Ipswich. (Also now long-dead.) Well, whose ancestors are the Winthrops?

[JohnKleeb]

5. Damn interesting

On my dad's side, I am German-Irish, Kleeb is a German last name. On my mom's side however I am Slovak and Slovene, and Ive been told Russian too.

[karynnj]

6. Must be cool for him to have so much information

on the side of his family that he apparently had no information on until a few years ago.

Random thought
- I wonder if that's where his very dark, thick, wavy hair comes from.

[JohnKleeb]

7. Could be

I have thick dark hair myself.

[elshiva]

8. Interesting.

I read my grandma an article this summer that said Kerry is also related to a colonial governor of MA or something like that. Doesn't surprise me!

[JohnKleeb]

9. Yep John Winthrop a frigging puritan

[TayTay]

10. Winthrop was the first Gov of Mass Bay Colony

And coined the 'City on a Hill' speech that Reagan borrowed from so, ah, liberally. It doesn't get any more blue-blooded than the Winthrops, as far as MA goes. (And I'm sure there is cross-breeding among the Cabots and Saltonstalls and the Endicotts and all the other First Families of MA.) The Forbes were responsible for opening the China trade and are another very, very blue-blooded old MA family. So the Senator does indeed have MA royalty in his blood, on his mother's side. (Wait, New England had the leveling spirit, which means we don't have royalty and everyone is plain before Gawd. Does not compute, can't be royalty and believe in being humble before Gawd. Warning, system crash emminent, cannot resolve conflict. Crash!)

His ex-wife was also connected to a great many First Families of MA. So, interestingly enough, the Senator's kids are even more blue-blooded than he is. (LOL!) But, that kind of thing has limited currency and is mostly historically interesting. It doesn't really mean much around here anymore. (Well, it was very colorful history, especially when the waves of immigrants came, saw the Blue-bloods and decided to have at 'em. Now that's good history.)

[ginnyinWI]

11. here's old Winthrop

Do you think there's any family resemblance? :)

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[TayTay]

12. Well, some nose

and the long face. (My mom gave me a pic of my great-great-uncle and he had the long NE face as well. Must be an English characteristic.)