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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 10:32 AM
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Gannon: Kerry to sign letter to ask for investigation
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 11:06 AM by TayTay
reported in Raw story. http://www.rawstory.com/

Also in this DU thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1262388

Can we please have some warm (if not hot) loving from libs now?

Edit: From the Raw Story article:

"Senator Kerry will be signing,” April Boyd, Kerry’s press secretary, said.

“There’s more screening to get into a Bush for President rally than the White House press room,” Boyd added. “A Girl Scout troop can’t even go on a public tour of the White House, but a Republican Party right wing activist of sketchy origins got daily West Wing access? This latest scandal makes Armstrong Williams look like a saint by comparison.”


I told you; he friggin hates those people.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 10:40 AM
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1. all they can do is slam Biden!
I was the first one to mention Kerry at all. What is wrong with these people? It must be sad to be so negative all of the time! :(
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:15 PM
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2. I commented
and I alerted on that idiotic tutu picture. I am so sick of seeing it and, even if it was not the posters intent, so supportive of the Republican's view of themselves as more manly.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:02 PM
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10. Was it the one with JK and others pink inTutus dancing?
I hate that picture! It's sick and homophobic. Thank you for alerting it.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 10:48 PM
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11. yeah that one -
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 10:49 PM by karynnj
it's repulsive. Especially after all that "orange" tan, looks French, metrosexual , manicure etc nonsense of the Republicans.

It seemed stupid beyond words and that they're doing this now bothered me especially as Kerry is doing more than they could reasonably expect him to and it's dangerous for them to sabotage our own candidates. (most will run for something.)

One person agreed with me, while another said that was how they felt.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 10:57 PM
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12. The whole French, manicure, pink tutu crap is
homophobic propoganda that the left should not be buying in too. It's sad because an open homosexual has NEVER run for president and probably we'll have to wait another 20 years at least after these comments, sheesh!

Remember "French" is a copped Neocon code word for "queer."
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:32 AM
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18. It's both homophobic AND misogynist...
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 02:33 AM by Withywindle
...it implies that "queer" men are less than "real" men because they have those "icky" feminine qualities and THAT'S what makes them "weak" and "lesser." They need to lay off that crap about "balls" and "bending over" too for that matter.

I'm with you. That's right-wing macho gender-anxious framing, straight up no chaser, and "our" side damn well oughta know better.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:24 PM
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23. Yes. Homophobic + sexist = heterosexist.
Tired of people asking if the person "has balls" very heterosexist. LittleClarkie suggested "she's got maguppies " as a female alternative.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 09:31 AM
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21.  French = gay That had gone totally over my head
Edited on Fri Feb-25-05 09:40 AM by karynnj
until Frank Rich wrote his column on that and other things last summer. (French = romantic was more what I would have thought - Too many old movies, wine, cheese, chocolat, the language itself)

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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:15 PM
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3. No Doubt
At all he hates them and anyone who would ever think otherwise is out of their damn mind!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 12:19 PM
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4. Oh, I so agree with you
Edited on Thu Feb-24-05 12:20 PM by TayTay
Check out this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1262744

Well, I would say the Dems have learned not to take it anymore. ("we're not gonna take it, no we're not gonna take it, anymore.)

Hehehehehehe! (Bitch-slap that Corsi bastard. Do it for me, please.!)
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 01:43 PM
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5. "Whoops"
I posted a comment and it went in the GD thread when I meant to post it here.:dunce: Oh well they can have fun attacking the hell out of it. I don't give a damn what those people think. But you will have to read the comment that I had posted for you by clicking over there. Sorry.
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Firespirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 06:06 PM
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6. Good for him!
He's definitely being a thorn in Bush's side. Most excellent.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 06:12 PM
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7. That's good news.
:hi:
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LeftyLizzie Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:20 PM
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8. I love John Kerry more and more each day . . . :) n/t
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 08:44 PM
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9. After today, so do I.
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

I'm so happy!

(We Massholes don't often get to be smiley happy people! I am reveling at the moment.)
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 11:55 PM
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14. me too!
proud!!! :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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hobgoblin Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 11:36 PM
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13. Kerry Kudos!
Am a genealogist, and in checking Kerry's antecedents, I note that there is definitely some Celtic blood there. Way to go, Johnny, go, go, go! Failte and cheers to the fightin' Irish!
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 12:44 AM
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15. Celtic blood, where? Kerry is not Irish, but he's honorary Irish.
His grandpa made up the name "Kerry" to hide his Jewish identity back in the bad old days.
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hobgoblin Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:42 AM
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16. Celtic Kerry?
In checking over his direct-line ancestry, I noted three antecedents from Ireland. Surnames: Means, McGregor and Cargill. These are 4th and 5th greats; may be Anglo-Irish, Scots-Irish, or Irish. But nevertheless, they're all considered Celts. He's also a Purdy descendant, as am I, and my 4th great-grandfather Purdy possibly was Scots-Irish; but JK's Purdy antecedent could be English or possibly Scots-Irish. Genealogy is fascinating. Worked on my tree for three years and have a long way to go.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:20 PM
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22. Very interesting. Thanks.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 01:48 AM
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17. there is some from his mom's side
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:00 AM
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19. His Grandma, I guess he said
But not his name. I wonder when he found that out. Was it because of the Globe's investigation? Some people I know insist that Kerry must have always known he wasn't as Irish as he was supposed to be. I don't believe that.
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LeftyLizzie Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:40 PM
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25. Yep. . .
The Globe reporters discovered the family background a couple of years ago, and they had a meeting with him and disclosed the info. He had had no idea. The meeting, and Kerry's reaction to the news, is detailed in the appendix of "John F. Kerry: The Complete Biography by the Boston Globe Reporters Who Knew Him Best."
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 02:50 AM
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37. He told me he had an Irish great grandmother.
Maybe that will help you. I am part Irish and my (Irish grandmother was from Boston). We talked about his discovering himself to be Jewish and the effect that would have on St.Patrick's day. He said he actually was part Irish on his mother's side. Hence the comment!:) This was at the beginning of the campaign when they were ragging on him not being "Irish" and threatening to make a scene on St. Patrick's day!
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 03:05 AM
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20. yay for Kerry!
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 05:25 PM
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24. images of letter
<img src="">

<img src="">

So now it's John "F." Kerry ? :) :)

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 08:51 PM
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26. It's always been ...
John F. Kerry, as far as I know. You get that Forbes middle name which means a connection that goes waaay back and is classy and old money and the Kerry name which implies (implies, she said) not to take the Forbes stuff too seriously. (Okay, that's Boston code, but it's true.)

Kerry knew his family was not of direct Irish descent. But he never tried to correct the mistaken image that he was either. Again, I think it's a non-issue, because it's time Boston and MA grew up and got over it. (We need to live with them what are actually here now, screw the past. I love romanticism too and the whole victimhood argument about the Irish in Boston, but, for gawd's sake, get over it. It's been many, many years since the Irish were anybody's victim in Boston. And there are no Brahmin's left. They are all long gone, like the tall ships and gas lights on street corners.) I am hoping that Senator Kerry becomes the darling of the Dominican population in Boston, and the Haitians and the Caribean Islanders and all the other new folks who moved here in the last ten years. I don't think they give a flying f*ck what he is as long as he is a good Senator.

(Okay, can you tell I'm just worn out tired of this non-issue coming up? Sorry everyone, I know I'm not talking to anyone here, I'm just tired of it at all.)
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:14 PM
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27. I noted it because
On a campaign letter I got he had signed without the 'F'. So wondered which was the normal way. The Boston stuff goes over the heads of us out here! I like the Forbes connection--a connection with old families is cool--that's all it means to non-Bostonians, I guess.
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:21 PM
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28. Off-topic and totally inane
but he has a cool signature.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:28 PM
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29. yeah I love it too

It shows a person who is intellectual (small letters) but who has very high ideals (the way some of the letters are very tall, making the whole signature top-heavy. :) Fits, doesn't it?
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:29 PM
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30. Haha, I guess so
I wasn't really looking at it that way. I just thought it was hardcore but you make a good point
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:54 PM
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33. a long time ago I learned some things about handwriting
analysis, and remember some of it. But yeah I agree with you , it does look cool too--dashing and dramatic. Has a certain flair to it. :) Just like the owner!
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 12:43 AM
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36. Agree. The art of intelligence.
I don't know if anyone remember an segment MSNBC aired in the last few weeks of the election, but they had some handwriting expert comparing Kerry's handwriting to Smirky's. I may not have heard it right, but she showed Kerry's signature and said that "it describes emotion," while saying Smirky's was something like "enthustiastic" cause it was all over the place. The whole segment was a joke. :grr:
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:50 PM
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31. I have thought that for a long time
I think his hand writing is neat as hell to be man. And his signature very neat and cool as hell also. Oh well why would we expect anything different when he is "cool as hell" himself. I mean it isn't everyday you see a man that is 61 and is good looking as hell, intelligent as hell, and talented as hell all in one package!

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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:51 PM
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32. I'm a girl and my handwriting is atrocious
His sig is so much prettier than mine, haha
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 11:57 PM
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34. And you can read it!
My husband has atrocious handwriting. Can't read a letter of it. I like Kerry's sig, it's nice and clean. And distinctive.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 02:56 AM
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39. It really is lovely. And it remains consistant
no matter how many times he signs it. Much like the man himself!
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 12:22 AM
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35. JFK strikes again! Bless him.
Harry Reid's got some messy handwritting, like me I can't write on the lines either. Kerry and Kennedy's signatures are very classy, which says it all.
Handwritting analysis is interesting. The Baltimore Sun Style section once did an analysis on Martin O'Malley's signature.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 02:54 AM
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38. John Edwards Signature is undecipherable. I actually had him sign a
picture twice and the signature didn't get any better! Both are scribbles that look like someone testing a pen for ink! What would that portend?
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:14 AM
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40. He was in a rush! That's what it portends!
Or general sloppiness means he's impatient, I guess.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-26-05 03:43 AM
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41. Well, considering the only reason for the second one, was the sloppiness
of the first, you would think it would be improved, but it is identical. No one would believe this was a signature. I would love to have a handwriting expert look at both sigs. I'll bet they think they aren't real. I would, if I didn't know better. I was soo disappointed! On the other hand, my Dad, who was also a lawyer, had such a bad signature, I couldn't let him sign my report cards because I was accused of forging a fake signature. One teacher told me an adult would never sign his name like that. I guess the teacher never met Edwards either! BTW, I didn't mean to imply it had anything to do with "lawyering" as my Mom was a lawyer too, and , like Kerry, she had a beautiful signature! Go figure!
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