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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 10:12 AM
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 10:18 AM
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1. I was just about to post that, too, Prosense!!!
That is exactly what I was thinking. Now I don't know if it was Kerry, but it COULD have been Kerry, and that is a very scary thought.

Incidentally, Sully is monitoring the Right blogosphere to see is there will be a peep about this given their total outrage about the Right Wing Extremist memo drawn up by DHS. So far? NOT. A. WORD.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/checking-the-blogosphere.html
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 10:25 AM
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2. Thanks for the link.
:hi:

Nice to see you.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:20 AM
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3. Thanks. I threw up a quick diary here. I love me a mystery:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:25 AM
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4. They claim there is no way of knowing who it might have been, but....
it could certainly be the Senator.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:30 AM
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5. The speculation is that it might have been Sen. Kerry
He was in Syria in January of 2005. Syria was held as a suspect state then and the Bush Admin considered it a near equal of the nations in the axis of evil.

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/tapped_archive?month=04&year=2009&base_name=crunch_time

And we KNOW that Sen. Kerry was wiretapped in his conversation with Benizar Bhutto.

http://watandost.blogspot.com/2008/08/musharraf-linked-benazirs-security-to.html">Ron Suskind's book "The Way of the World":

Conversation with Senator John Kerry:

As Bhutto met John Kerry in Washington, three weeks before going back to Pakistan, author writes: "The priority of this trip is to get Bhutto the security support she lacks. October 18 is only three weeks away. Kerry is swift off the mark: "This is a volatile situation you're walking into, Benazir." The United States, he says, is generally hesitant to ensure the protection of anyone who is not a designated leader, a provision to prevent US forces from becoming embroiled in the internal disputes of sovereign nations. "Senator Kerry, I want Pakistan to provide me with the security I am entitled to under the laws of my country. I'd be grateful if you would talk to the Musharraf government and tell him the US expects he will fulfill those obligations." Kerry sighs. Of course, he, a senator, can't conduct unilateral foreign policy. "Well, Benazir, I will certainly talk to the State Department about that point being made to Musharraf," he says as forcefully as credulity will allow... Her current fortune, however, are in hands of a half-a-dozen people beyond her orbit: a tight circle of policy makers in senior posts at the State Department and in the Vice President's Office. All official contacts with Pakistan on Bhutto's behalf must be channeled through this small group, overseen, in essence, by Cheney and Rice, a duo with a long history of internecine combat. Most of it dominated by the vice president."
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 11:47 AM
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6. Thanks for the information. Much of this portion of the conversation between
Bhutto and Kerry was made public, but I had not known about it being wiretapped. There was no reason what so ever to wiretap that conversation- unless of course the person ordering the wiretapping doesn't trust anyone and makes up his own rules. Who do you think ordered the wiretapping? Cheney? He seems to be the only one with a real motive to do this- not wanting Bhutto in the picture again.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 12:02 PM
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7. Actually, when I looked at the Suskind book itself it did not say it
was from telephone tapes. So I am not sure about that.

It actually is only one person -- Spencer Ackerman -- who thought it may be John Kerry.

I think it would be better if the wiretapped member of Congress was a FISA bill supporter like Feinstein. Kerry voted against the FISA bill (and probably is quite self-satisfied he did today after opening up the NYT).

Feingold is already calling for hearings.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-16-09 03:24 PM
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8. That would be ironic. n/t
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