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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:32 AM
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"The new go-to guy in the U.S. Senate "

"John Kerry is really becoming a significant force in the Senate in a way that he just wasn't," said Norm Ornstein of the American Enterprise Institute, a Washington think tank."

A good piece that will have some anti-Kerry people fumming. LOL


http://www.reuters.com/article/featuredCrisis/idUSN16212150
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:30 AM
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1. Hey Norm - Kerry WAS the go-to guy in the Senate if you cared to expose corruption and global terror
networks and their illicit funding by international powerplayers.

I swear this nation's pundit class are the biggest bunch of dumbasses.
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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:43 AM
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2. Agree with you, 100% n/t
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 10:53 AM
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3. They have a pack mentality. But, it is good that Kerry has some respectable recognition.
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 10:54 AM by wisteria
The media pundits will not change, they feed off of each and most do not carry and original thought or carry through with in depth reporting. We have in a way created these people by not demanding more from them. We settle for meritocracy. There are some exceptions, but you can count them on one hand.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 11:16 AM
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4. Yep....I wish I had been railing against them all those years instead of dancing the nights away.
Cue the Catholic guilt.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:23 PM
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5. Aw, you have to add a little fun into the mix. What is life without some fun.
There was IMO, more accurate reporting being done in the 70's and very early 80's- to be a journalist was to have some respect. We didn't have to watch what was being reported or said as closely back then. There was a sense of integrity associated with news people and journalists.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 01:45 PM
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6. Unfortunately the late 80s and early 90s is when Kerry really needed backup -
Many journailists back then were too accepting of the idea that BCCI was too complicated so Americans shouldn't bother to care about it.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:17 PM
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9. BLM,
I met you and strongly believe you were enthusiastically doing a fantastic job on both for years.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 02:23 PM
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7. EXACTLY. These guys have been asleep...
...or in denial, or both.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:15 PM
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8. I agree with you, but it is asinine to go to the AEI for an opinion on a Democrat - let alone a
Edited on Sun Oct-18-09 03:26 PM by karynnj
liberal one, who has fought them harder and more successfully than anyone else. AEI employed Lynne Cheney! http://www.aei.org/scholar/10

But, this is the theme the rest of the media spouts as well - likely to avoid having to admit that they really were unfair in 2004.
The fact is JK was out in front more than any other Democrat in 2005 and 2006 - it sure was NOT Hillary or Obama. If you look at the positions the whole party took in early 2007, Kerry was positioned in each absolutely perfectly by the end of 2005. (Far better than the wondrous Clintons positioned HRC)

In addition, this excuses them from playing with the people who did mock JK in 2005 and 2006. (and we know precisely who they were allied with and why they did it - JK did not rule out a run in 2008.) I don't doubt there were moments JK thought of getting out of this. There was a Brookings Institute speech on climate change in early 2005 (I think) where he spoke of all the important positive things - all being done by states or companies - not DC. Had that continued, I would bet that he might have determined that he could do more outside the Senate. But, it ignores that JK was extremely active as early as 2004 trying to keep people focused and engaged. It was not an obvious thing to keep his email list and use it as he did - and it was effective.

The fact is that he was attacked after the election by simultaneously by the right which continued their lies, the centrist Democrats allied with the Clintons - with many putting out book, articles or comments trashing his campaign (which in MHO did better relative to what a generic Democrat could do than the grossly over rated 1992 campaign of another), and the left fringe, that went back to whining about having held their nose for no good reason - to vote for the truest liberal who was a viable primary candidate since at least 1992. That he is still standing show how strong and focused he is in a profession of people whose egos could never have stood this. (Imagine if Kerry had lost the primary in 2004 and stayed away from the Senate while it was in session for over a month or refused to concede for a couple of weeks after the last primary even though his opponent had a significantly higher regular delegate count and enough total delegates to win. Imagine the comments if at that point people allied with him spoke of a co-Presidency.) Now, that is sulking!

But, if this is the way they have of finally admitting what we saw long ago, it is better than there asinine ignoring his accomplishments. (It is interesting how they position the completely positive Leahy comment to shade it. ) I think this is just their inability to concede they were unfair or inaccurate. This is why I suspect that we will always see stories of how Hillary was a work horse in the Senate, though not a single HRC fan has ever been able to tell me one major area she led on in Senate. They explain how good she was for constituents - but, that is really more the office than the Senator and was true of Senator pothole, Al D'amoto.

I agree with you, BLM on the pundits. I think it is due to their collect inability to actually re evaluate anything.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:54 PM
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13. I despise that "workhorse" comment attributed to Clinton. I can think of nothing that she
accomplished while in the senate. As always, it seems the Clinton's get glowing reviews from the press for doing nothing more than being Clinton's.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 03:19 PM
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10. Best line in the article is from Senator Kerry
"I feel very calm and confident about who I am politically and personally. I feel very comfortable with the fights I am fighting and where I am," said Kerry.

That is a fantastic comment and it shows.

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 04:57 PM
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11. Wonderful statement
ANd it shows. The good Senator is doing ground-breaking, historical work. Getting to a bill on Climate Change that actually has a chance of passage is a huge, massive engagement that NO ONE thought was possible. This is unbelievably good work and that start that we need to get serious on this issue. In it's own way, this is as big a deal as Social Security was. And John Kerry was THE key player on this in getting Lindsey Graham on board and breaking the filibuster logjam.

Senator Kerry is just starting to hit his stride. I cannot help but smile when I think of the other good things to come from him. (And pride, for a lot of reasons. Reasons we can all share.)
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:55 PM
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14. Yes, those comments jumped out at me. n/t
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 09:08 PM
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16. Perfect, and the insteresting thing is
that he is winning those fights.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:15 PM
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12. The quotes from the article act like he did nothing before 2008.
But what I do think is true is that you need seniority and you need a big chairmanship to do a lot of significant things in the Senate, and, well "get noticed" by the press. Hillary Clinton never would have had that had she returned to the Senate, simply because she did not have the seniority. Kerry has that seniority, and THAT is what has changed. JMO. He's always been a great Senator.

Love his quote, too.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-18-09 08:58 PM
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15. You hit on something. This is why Clinton fought so hard to stay in the primaries and
was working behind the scenes trying to secure some type of leadership position if she returned to the senate. If she wasn't going to win she was not going to go down with nothing.
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