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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:06 PM
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Senator Kerry is on Charlie Rose tonight.

http://www.charlierose.com/

If you do not get Rose, you can catch the interview at the web site tomorrow.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:13 PM
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1. Thanks! I will set the DVR tonight!
What I love about Charlie Rose is that one gets a lot of info out of the interviews.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:25 PM
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2. Yes, I always come away with useful information. n/t
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:26 PM
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3. Excellent!
Is it possible Senator Kerry hasn't been on Charlie Rose since 2004??!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 09:33 PM
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4. I really don't remember. Maybe it will be mentioned during the interview. n/t
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:01 AM
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8. He and Teresa were interviewed by him in March 2007, but it never was on tv
It was the first or one of the first book tour events.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:06 PM
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5. UPdate, he isn't on- they seem to be rerunning the Mullen interview from yesterday.
Sorry! I don't know what is going on. He is even listed on the site that he was to be on tonight.
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 10:38 PM
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6. Whoa, really?
They even list him on the TV listings schedule!

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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-03-09 11:01 PM
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7. I can't see bec. taping SFRC, but I'm getting a report that he's on!
So check all showings!
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:53 AM
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9. I will try later. But, in my area I have Mullen right now. Maybe if it took place it will be
available on line tomorrow.
If you get a chance to see it let me know.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:56 AM
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10. Ah, it turned up on the independant network at 12.
I have no idea why the other station decided to replay the Mullen interview.
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:05 AM
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11. Hooray!
I've set timer to tape repeat at 6 am, can't wait to see it!
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 04:38 AM
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12. The Bloomberg channel here has Mullen...
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 04:40 AM by YvonneCa
...on tonight, but JK is listed at 11:30 p.m. tonight on my local PBS station. Bloomberg always carries Charlie Rose, but a day behind.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 04:46 AM
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13. This is really bad...
... :7 ...but I wokeup at 12:15 (couldn't sleep) and realized the interview might still be on, so I turned on the TV. I watched the last ten minutes or so. This is a GOOD interview. I can't wait to see the whole thing tomorrow.

Going back to bed now... :)
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:06 AM
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14. This interview is AMAZING
Wisteria, thank you so much for letting us know about it!

I can't wait to hear what you all think!!!
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:41 AM
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15. Looking forward to comments as well
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 07:43 AM by Inuca
doubt I will be able to watch it. So please be detailed :-). Managed to watch the beginning of the SFRC hearing last night though. I think his opening statement was a small masterpiece of wisdom, understading of the situation and its implications, support while maintaining required distance and objectivity, etc.
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 07:56 AM
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16. Video still only a placeholder
But this is where you should be able to watch online if you can't watch any other way:
http://www.charlierose.com/guest/view/1757
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:23 PM
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20. I can only watch online
at work, at home my lousy satellite provider slows me down to a crawl after 200MB! Charlie Rose is unfortunately too long too watch at work.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:48 PM
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23. Still just a place holder, but I watched the 2003 one
I clicked on it with some trepidation because this was near the end of the preprimaries where Kerry was positioning himself against Howard Dean, who was the overwhelming front runner. Kerry did then defend his vote, but he explained it in a way that was 100% in keeping with what he said when he voted and later when he ran against both O'Reilly and Beatty last year. He actually put it in a longer historical perspective - of wanting Saddam held to account in the 1990s. Even when he rejected his vote, it was because he admitted that by putting trust that Bush would do what he said, he did assume some responsibility for Bush later having that authority to use, regardless of his motives. His convoluted (not as clear as he said it was)statement on whether it was a mistake does end up as a truthful rejection of going to war and a rejection of there being sufficient threat to do so, but Rose had to force that out of him. In the context of the time and an understanding of the Catholic (Christian?) importance of the words, "last resort", this was a strong admission from a man wanting to be President. Kerry was obliquely saying that the US was fighting an unjust war. Additionally, I did not realize that his concern of "occupation" and his efforts to minimize (repeated in his Afghanistan comments, echoing his Vietnam comments) went that far back. Both of these were beyond what Dean (or Obama) were saying in 2002/2003.

Other interesting things were:
-how uncomfortable Rose was with Kerry's more even handed middle east ideas. This is significant as Rose's audience is, I think, NYC based and Rose is pro Israel. Kerry did not pander here as many would have done.

- Kerry's comments on Dean show how easily the republicans would have torn him apart. The fact is that Kerry was right that the Democrats forced the addition of the tax cuts at the bottom and although the economy as a whole was reasonably strong, Dean's position - that he would have raised the taxes of everyone who paid taxes would have been devastating. In addition, contrary to all of DU, Kerry's Iraq position was more consistent than Dean's. (Kerry does not detail Dean's positions, but Dean made statements in the early fall that were MORE aggressive than Kerry's - calling for giving SH a deadline (I think)6 months to disarm. Dean also did say he would have voted for Biden/Lugar, which was better - and was Kerry's preference as well. If anything, what Dean proposed himself would have been easier to use - as Bush was claiming in March 2003 that SH had not disarmed completely. In both cases, Bush would have misused the resolution. The difference is Kerry stuck with the complex position he had - which was harder than having a simple position. Dean suddenly in early 2003, acted as if he had always been 100% against any use of force against SH. Not only was that not true, it left him very open on national security. The majority of the country had not yet really rejected the war. If they had, Kerry would have won.

- One nagging thought. Reading Kerry's statement and the expanded statement and questions Wednesday, he really would have preferred not expanding the troops as radically as Obama is doing. His question went directly to his probable opposition on that. There also appears to be real concern that Obama will follow the policy that Kerry spelled out clearly - but Obama didn't - on clearing opposition only where the Afghanis can come in behind. I have not watched all of the hearings, but I have not heard any of the 3 witnesses or McChrystal speak of that policy directly. In fact, much of the media coverage has referred back to the McChrystal plan and has actually made it just an issue of troop numbers, where they argue that NATO may make up most of the remaining 10,000 to get to the "magic" 40,000. (Only CNN's Michael Ware showed where each country was located in Afghanistan on a map that showed the relative strength of the Taliban. We are in the Taliban areas, while almost all of NATO are in areas where the ethnic groups hate the Taliban. In addition, they are restricted in what their countries allow them to do. So, the numbers game is disingenuous.)

This has somewhat the same feel as the IWR. While I would love to think that he is correct in trusting Obama, it really looks to me as if Obama has been more in line with the hawks. I always thought, given the reference in his IWR speech of how he and others did succeed in moving Bush to go to the UN, to get inspectors in, and to go to Congress, that Kerry and others (Biden?) likely hoped that they would have more leverage with Bush if they took his words in good faith by giving their votes. Kerry is closer to Obama, but it is in Obama's interest to give the impression that Kerry (and Biden) has influence, if only to neutralize a strong voice. (I do see that he likely wanted to avoid the obvious charge that he refused to give the President the leverage to do the things that he (Kerry) had been calling for since before Bush was in office.)

While Kerry's IWR statement and subsequent statements did allow him to point back and argue what his actual position was, the fact is that for many it was crystallized and defined by a vote that he very clearly hates, though recently, many articles refer to Kerry's 2004 campaign as anti-war - which is too simplistic as well. Here, the black/white nature of our media's analysis has already referred to him as a supporter. For now, they have included some indication of how qualified that support is - and it is true he is not against it as Feingold and Menendez are. I hope that Obama agrees with Kerry on using soldiers only where there is Afghan backfill - as it makes sense, but if he doesn't or he fails to get Gates and the Generals to actually do that, I suspect that Kerry will speak out and that the media will start their flip flop nonsense - even though Kerry would have been 100% consistent.

This is not very coherent. I think because it caused me to think two diametrically opposite things. One is that on complicated issues there really are usually no simple unqualified statements that would be good policy or analysis - and Kerry has the integrity to avoid them for the most part. (Kerry is wonderful at finding compelling ways to say things, if he had the personality flaw needed to be a demagogue, he could have been an exceptional one, but at the loss of thoughtfulness and seriousness.) The second is that Kerry's nuanced complicated honesty is easy to twist against him in today's environment.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:55 AM
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19. Someone twitted that same sentiment last night about the interview.
I can't wait to listen to the entire interview.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:42 PM
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22. Based just on the last ten minutes or so that I watched...
...last night, I totally agree with you. I thought it was critical what he said about the state of our country...and all that needs to be done. He was also very forthcoming about 2004, and talked of his anger back then...which I think we all saw. I LOVED that...when asked about his talk with Ted Kennedy about his future, he refused to let others slam the door on ALL his possibilities. ;)

I really can't waitto see the whole interview...
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:54 AM
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18. I am sorry. If I would of known it was better to see it on a PBS station I would have let you know.
I missed most of the interview so I am looking forward to catching it today.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 12:34 PM
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21. Wisteria...
...thank you for the information. I appreciate it a lot. The interview aired here late last night...and Bloomberg will air it again at 7 PST...a more watchable time.;) I may watch online earlier today, if I can. :hi:
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:52 AM
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17. Oh, well that explains why he wasn't on last night on Bloom.
I caught some of the interview on PBS last night and now the video is available on the site.
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 01:02 PM
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24. Looking forward to viewing this later tonight
when I have time.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 02:07 PM
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25. Still not on line, but PoliticalWire has a snippet about the SoS position
It would make sense that this is what Charlie Rose would ask. He has become more and more a GOP puppet. And it would make sense that this is what Politicalwire would report. Hopefully, the interview will be on line soon so that I can watch it for the substantive part.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2009/12/04/kerry_wanted_to_be_secretary_of_state.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PoliticalWire+(Taegan+Goddard%27s+Political+Wire)&utm_content=Google+Reader

In an interview with Charlie Rose, Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) admitted for the first time that he wanted to be Secretary of State for President Obama.

Said Kerry: "I think you would be a liar if you sat here and played a game and said gee, Charlie, no. I think it is a great position. But I didn't sit around and worry about it."
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 04:01 PM
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26. More here - At least, they talk about some substance before getting to the question
And they give the actual question asked, which makes the answer understandle.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/70699-kerry-says-us-moving-too-slowly-on-climate-change


Kerry says U.S. moving too slowly on climate change
By Eric Zimmermann - 12/04/09 03:25 PM ET

Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) said last night that the U.S. was moving too slowly to confront climate change.

The Massachusetts Democrat also said he expected the Copenhagen climate conference to result in a political agreement with binding emissions reductions.

"We're making decisions too slowly," Kerry told PBS's Charlie Rose. "We are not grappling with the big choices that we face."

"We have to decide what Americans are going to produce and how we're going to create the jobs of the future. And if we approach it the way we've been approaching climate change and these other issues, we are going to be way behind these other countries," he continued
...
Meanwhile, Kerry also acknowledged that he would have liked to be Secretary of State under President Obama.

Kerry was reportedly considered for the position, which of course was finally handed to Hillary Clinton.

"Did you want to be secretary of state?" Rose asked.

Kerry responded: "I think you would be a liar if you sat here and played a game, and said gee, Charlie, no. I think it is a great position. But I didn’t sit around and worry about it. That is a very personal decision."


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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 04:10 PM
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27. It is up for viewing now.
Edited on Fri Dec-04-09 04:13 PM by wisteria
As for the snippet and Charlie Rose,I will wait and view the entire interview. I never thought of Rose this way, but it has been a while since I watched one of his programs.
As for the SOS position, I always felt he wanted this position-but I think for certain, he was torn about Kennedy's illness and not being there for the people of Massachusetts. He seems very comfortable where he is now, and you can not blame him for wanting to do as much good as possible for this country.

http://www.charlierose.com/
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 05:06 PM
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29. Looking at both HRC and Kerry in the hearings,
Kerry is the one who seems completely at ease and fully comfortable in his position. The fact is that if you look at the diplomatic successes each has had this year, in spite of HRC having the title and the full time job, Kerry has had more real successes. The most obvious was with Karzai - which is important enough her allies have tried to claim it for her, even bizarrely using the same stories Kerry already told. The reopening of relations with Syria was Kerry's as well. Kerry also helped get aid restored to former levels in Darfur. Hillary twisted arms to get Armenia to sign the agreement with Turkey which was a "success", but there also were many gaffes that Kerry would not have made. I suspect he knows Russian uses a Cyrillic alphabet and likely would not think a "red button" a good idea. He also did not return anger in Pakistan with his own anger and accuse a people already thinking they weren't getting credit with "knowing where OBL" was.




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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:16 AM
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33. You are correct on all accounts. Clinton is still learning the job. And, it remains to be seen if
she is really good at being a diplomat.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 09:10 AM
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35. What is this about HRC and
the Cyrillic alphabet??? Please don't tell me (or actually please do :evilgrin:) that she did not know what characters Russians use!
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 04:56 PM
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28. That was likely the least interesting question he asked
It is now on - http://www.charlierose.com/

(Rose was more obnoxious when he interviewed the Kerrys when they had their book tour in 2007. Unlike EVERY book tour I ever saw for anyone, he basically tried to make it all about 2004 and politics - and he was not nice on either. He even got some pushback from the crowd. He baited Teresa - asking her to respond to a question on a comment from John Hirsh, who praised Drudge's Kerry smears, that Kerry's campaign was how not to run. When she initially demurred with a rather terse comment on Hirsh, he started in with "her supposedly being opinionated". She then gave a fantastic response on what Kerry did that clearly moved Kerry and got a lot of response. (Earlier looking for a link to video on this I did find that you can download that here - http://www.audible.com/adbl/site/products/ProductDetail.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0958222889.1259963449@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccchadeimkmldelcefecekjdffidfjf.0&productID=SP_NSTY_000063 ) (It is complicated as it cost $1.95 - I am waiting until tonight as Eric uses them for audio books for his Kindle and I don't want to set up another account)

As to the SoS question, it appear from google that this is being taken as the story. (I blasted the first person on one site who took the occasion to trash Kerry relative to HRC. )
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:25 PM
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30. Hey, OT, but how does your husband like the Kindle?
Admittedly, I am intrigued by the e-readers but not ready to get one. Also, the Nook from B & N may be good as well.

The big detractor to it is that you can't get "used" books or "borrow" books from the library with it. In another words, you're stuck paying $10 every time you want to read a book. But I am interested in hearing more.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 11:20 PM
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32. He loves it
He got the first one that came out years ago and it was great. He both reads books and the NYT on it and listens to audio books downloaded to it on the way to and from work (about a 1 hour drive). I now have that one because the audio jack no longer works. He has a newer one. It is great especially on plane trips, because he no longer brings hundreds of pages of old NYT.

There is a website where people can download classics that are out of copywrite for free, but you are right that it is more expensive than going to the library. In his case, it likely works out as we cancelled the NYT except on Sunday and pay less to get it on the kindle and he was buying audio books all the time because the library had a poor collection.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 09:14 AM
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36. I am in the intrigued but not ready category as well
Do you happen to know if the Kindle and Nook use compatible formats? I did not look into e-books in quite some time, but I remember incompatibility used to be one of the problems.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:09 AM
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37. As far as a I know both machines are "monopoly" machines.
If you buy a Kindle, you can only buy books from Amazon.com, and with the Nook, it must be B & N books. That is part of the reason why I am waiting. I want an e-reader that could buy from a variety of on line book stores, so I can find what I want at the best price.

And there was an incident where there was a copyright issue with an edition of 1984. Amazon, without warning "took back" all copies of the book electronically. Everyone got a refund, but gee had this been a print book, people would have had to bring the book back voluntarily. Also, what happens if you decide to change e-readers? From what I get the Kindle is attached to your Amazon account. If you switched to the Nook, wouldn't you lose all your Amazon books?

To a certain extent we are like at the beginning of the i-pod era. At the beginning the songs downloaded to an i-pod were "DRM", digital rights management. That meant they couldn't work on different machines and other limitations. People sometimes "lost" their music. Now DRM has been largely banned from the big music download sites, and they can be used on any device. You can copy them, burn CDs with them, etc. The format is compatible across mp3 players. But in the beginning that wasn't the case. Still even though there is no longer a monopoly for iTunes, they still are the #1 on line store.

From what I have heard, Apple will be coming out with some kind of e-reader in 2010. But if it's another monopoly, again I will wait.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 07:22 AM
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39. Thanks for the info
I see that unfortunately things did not change much in the few years since I last looked into this.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-05-09 01:22 AM
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34. Your right, the interview was a good one. Rose tried to interrupt Kerry a couple of times but,
Kerry made his point anyway. The last questions were really necessary. I don't think he needed to ask him about the 2004 election after five years. And, the SOS question also wasn't necessary. This was just asked to create a headline and perhaps try to create some media made animosity between Kerry and Clinton where there isn't any.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-04-09 10:26 PM
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31. I just checked my DVR and it is there waiting for me to watch,
along with the SFRC hearing. Hmmm ... may have to FF a bit through that one. Not enough time to watch it all.

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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-06-09 10:27 AM
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38. That was an incredible interview. It may be strange to say, but I felt
Edited on Sun Dec-06-09 10:31 AM by beachmom
more comfortable with the new Afghan strategy after hearing Kerry talk about it, than from Obama's speech. The Obama speech plus the Kerry interview gives enough information to understand what is going to happen. Anyone who is very concerned about Afghanistan would spend their time wisely listening to Kerry's excellent description of what the strategy will and will not do. AND how it is really all about Pakistan, not Afghanistan.

I also felt Kerry wisely pointed out the problems with so much money being in our politics, and that is why things are going so slowly in the Congress. He didn't pretend to be Mr. Sunny. He is very concerned about our country's future. I have to say, after finally getting the chance to catch up on some of episodes of PBS's Frontline, I do think financial reform is just as important as global climate change, and what Kerry said about Congress & money holds true as to why that legislation didn't fly through Congress. Think about it: the derivatives market STILL is not regulated. That is a big WTF.

I can't figure out why the Hotline thought that what he said re: SoS was newsworthy. The only way it would have been news is if he said he did not seek nor wanted the position of SoS. For goodness sake, if the POTUS calls you and offers the SoS spot, you take it, and acting like you wouldn't want it is highly disingenuous. That is all he was saying.

On the personal side, I made the following observations:

1. The death of Ted Kennedy still stings. When Rose asked Kerry what getting hcr done would mean to Teddy, Kerry said "everything" with a catch in his voice.

2. John Kerry is a very honest person who can't hide his feelings completely even in a formal interview. He said after the 2004 election, he was very angry. Mostly at himself. And then he said again how he regrets that he did not effectively get the truth out about his service. The fact that he brought it up again makes me think that the swiftboating, although not something he thinks about all the time, still hurts. Frankly, I am still angry at the press about it. They never apologized for aiding and abetting the most despicable propaganda I have ever seen. That is why although some of the weird stuff against Obama is terrible, that situation is not so bad because the MSM doesn't treat it seriously the way they did the SBVT "charges".

3. He is not going to commit to staying in the Senate "for the rest of his life" or any job for that matter. I liked that. I think that comes from his experiences in Vietnam that he doesn't pretend to predict the future -- anything could happen.

Again, awesome interview. Kerry at a high point in his Senate career.
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Luftmensch067 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 09:36 AM
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40. Nice summation!
I enjoyed reading it as a supplement to the interview itself. I agree that was an informed, thoughtful and very honest discussion - so amazing to get the chance to see JK in an extended "normal" human conversation in a public context.
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 02:03 PM
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41. I agree with your entire post. My thoughts...
...exactly. :)
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-07-09 03:01 PM
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42. I agree with the others - great summary
Kerry is very very good in these detailed interviews where people let him speak.
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43. Yes, Sen. Kerry has a way of explaining Afghanistan that is more conforting. n/t
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