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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 05:34 PM
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Bill unveiling postponed. Thank you, Harry Reid.
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 06:18 PM by Mass
http://www.forexyard.com/en/news/senators-postpone-climate-bill-unveiling-2010-04-24T222313Z-US

May be some day we will have a Democratic caucus committed to advance important issues, but clearly not the case today (it would be different if an immigration bill was ready, but, once again, it is not the case).

Full Kerry press release here

http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/kerry-on-climate-change-hiccup----were-pressing-forward.php

I have to say it has not been a great day for me with Dems. These last few weeks made it clear that a large fraction of the Democratic caucus had no commitment to the environment.

Yesterday, I heard about this (nothing to do with Senator Kerry, but, ...).

http://www.todayonline.com/World/EDC100424-0000069/Fast-weapons-can-hit-any-part-of-the-world

I continue to hear the ridiculous noise about Sue Lowden. Yes, she is ridiculous, but that Harry Reid is behind her in the polls even in a three way should tell us a lot about him as well.

And Schumer channeling Eric Cantor and criticizing this country foreign policy on a foreign media show? And the latest thing I heard on the news today driving back from my son's college was that some Dems were now considering a federal VAT?

Really? Sometimes, this makes me wonder about the merits of the big tent.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 06:55 PM
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1. Just saw the news. Very disappointing.
I think Schumer shares part of the blame as well. But Reid is ultimately responsible. Obama needs to fix this ASAP.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:54 PM
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2. not really surprised, other than Kerry and a few others
Dems have not made this a big issue. other whan kissing that swift boat supporters ass.

even Lieberman never pushed for it the way Kerry did. he may have been willing to work with Kerry but when he speaks out and gets out there it's mostly to bash Democrats and talk about his love for the republicans.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 11:06 PM
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3. All I can say is that Reid and Schumer's political instincts are horrible
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 12:03 AM by karynnj
Graham is totally right in his objections. I also wonder if they can count on him to work on immigration. He did not speak of that, but why would he work on a bill that he calls a cynical ploy? I really don't see how they can have a bipartisan bill ready any time soon. Not to mention, if there is increased anti-immigrant feelings, which the Arizona bill shows, how could the Congress be more likely to pass something than when a Republican President and a top Republican pushed it? Not to mention when there is 9.5% unemployment.

I would have less problem had climate change been pushed back because there were not the votes or if they thought it could hurt in the mid terms, but this is just stupid.

But then Reid and Schumer led the decision not to filibuster Alito - and to trash Kerry anonymously to the media (Schumer belately saying that he regretted not leading a filibuster was the ultimate in chutzpah.)

Then they both were angered at Kerry refusing to stay silent instead of introducing Kerry/Feingold - even though without it, the RW talking point that the Democrats had no plan would have been true.

It stuns me that no one sees that Kerry likely has more political sense than these 2 thrown together. Not to mention being the far better person. The NYT has his comments which are as reasonable and courteous as always.


Hours after Mr. Graham released his letter, Mr. Kerry said in a statement that Mr. Graham’s actions had scuttled plans for an elaborate announcement of the proposal, whose passage is a major priority for the Obama administration.

“We all believe that this year is our best and perhaps last chance for Congress to pass a comprehensive approach,” Mr. Kerry said. “We believe that we had reached such an agreement and were excited to announce it on Monday, but regrettably external issues have arisen that force us to postpone only temporarily.”

Mr. Kerry said that he was prepared to resume work on the climate measure when Mr. Graham rejoined the discussion. But he said he was uncertain when that would be.

“We will continue to work, and we will do everything necessary to be ready when the moment presents itself,” Mr. Kerry said.



http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/25/us/politics/25graham.html?hp

I feel certain that they are wrong on pushing immigration without doing the careful work in a time when the issue has been ultra radicalized. I would feel this even if they had just passed climate change. If there is anything that should not be done immediately before the election it is this. I just hope that I am wrong.

As to Schumer's AIPAC positions, they are not even the position of most of the Jewish community. AIPAC which now is again pushing the idea that we can not question Israel, questioned Israel when Rabin was Prime Minister. Apparently, it only wrong to question when there is a right wing government.


edited - because writing in haste and anger leads to incoherence on my part - and also to add the NYT link.



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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 11:42 PM
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5. I agree with all you have said. I am disgusted at this outcome.
And, if Senator Kerry were not the person he is, I am sure he would have given up and walked away from this BS a long time ago.
Personally, I think immigration reform is going to lose the election for us. If Reid thinks he can humor the hispanic community with efforts to pass something and then falls short (which he will in this climate) he is gone, along with more Democrats then initially thought. I would imagine the Republicans are joyful knowing this issue is going to trump our efforts being done now about Wall Street.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 11:35 PM
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4. Well that is it. This bill will be forgotten soon enough and nothing will be done on the issue.
I always got the feeling Reid never wanted to push this anyway and good old Schmuck Schumer has got his way. I feel for Senator Kerry who has put so much time and effort into this bill, even humbling himself to the likes of T. Boone Pickens.

I will not forgive Reid for this, this is a calculated political move that will appease one constituency for a while, but this will anger a lot of people, and I believe this will mean less votes for Democrats come November. At least Climate Change would have created new jobs and it would have been seen as a positive move around the world. I will not defend the Democrats on this move. Reid and the others are on their own. This may help Reid, but it is going to hurt a lot of Senators in close races who do not have large Hispanic populations and the Republicans will have a great time painting Democrats as the bad guys on this. Now, I become even more concerned about the PA seat.
I am discussed, I guess the votes of those who really wanted something done on climate change weren't enough for Obama or Reid to give a sh*t about.
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:25 AM
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6. thanks for everyone's comments.. you make me feel less alone in my fury! n/t
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MBS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:39 AM
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7. I posted the url for today's Globe story on this delay (see immigration thread)
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 07:40 AM by MBS
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