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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 11:44 AM
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Kerry's statement on Qaddafi
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 12:08 PM by karynnj


Qaddafi’s death marks the end of his reign of terror and the promise of a new Libya. The United States demonstrated clear-eyed leadership, patience, and foresight by pushing the international community into action after Qaddafi promised a massacre. Though the Administration was criticized both for moving too quickly and for not moving quickly enough, it is undeniable that the NATO campaign prevented a massacre and contributed mightily to Qaddafi’s undoing without deploying boots on the ground or suffering a single American fatality. This is a victory for multilateralism and successful coalition-building in defiance of those who derided NATO and predicted a very different outcome.

“Qaddafi denied Libya the basic building blocks of democracy and instead leaves behind a legacy of cruelty and international isolation. This is an extraordinary moment, but the days ahead will not be easy. The Middle East revolutions remind us that creating a free and tolerant political order is a more difficult challenge than removing a despotic one. The Libyan people have inspired the world with their incredible courage and fierce determination to be free. I urge the leaders of the Transitional National Council to begin the political transition to a permanent, democratically elected government. And I urge the international community to continue to stand with the Libyan people and support the creation of viable governing institutions.”

In a Wall Street Journal op-ed published in March, Senator Kerry argued for NATO action saying, “The military intervention was not directly intended to force Gadhafi from power, but the international community will remain united in maintaining diplomatic and economic pressure on a thug who has lost any legitimacy he ever possessed. There are many options and tools available to us to achieve our ultimate desire of seeing Gadhafi go. While it is impolitic perhaps to suggest it, I'd underscore that destroying his Soviet-era military capacity has been the biggest step towards that goal.”

http://kerry.senate.gov/press/release/?id=da3ac96f-57a2-4557-b792-558b9e81582c

The Boston Globe terms this a major foreign policy victory for Kerry, noting he was among the first to advocate early and clearly for the air campaign. (They do mention SoS, but it is good they are noting that he was an early proponent. )

The death of Moammar Khadafy in Libya represents a major foreign policy victory for Massachusetts Senator John Kerry, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and an aspirant for the job of secretary of state in a potential second Obama term.

In the face of considerable skepticism, Kerry advocated early and clearly for the air campaign against Khadafy’s troops, which helped rebels take control of the country and and ultimately corner Khadafy in his hometown of Surt.

Kerry today issued a statement calling the turn of events the end of a “reign of terror and the promise of a new Libya.”

http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2011/10/john-kerry-hails-end-reign-terror-moammar-khadafy-killed-libya/LO91Wl7rIJlBKrOcXj0Z5M/index.html

There is also an LA Times article with his reaction:

Kadafi’s death is a development that “marks the end of his reign of terror and the promise of a new Libya,” Kerry said in a statement.

Kerry, who was an early supporter of the NATO mission in Libya, cast Kadafi’s death as “a victory for multilateralism and successful coalition-building in defiance of those who derided NATO and predicted a very different outcome.”

“The United States demonstrated clear-eyed leadership, patience, and foresight by pushing the international community into action after Qaddafi promised a massacre,” he said in a statement. “Though the Administration was criticized both for moving too quickly and for not moving quickly enough, it is undeniable that the NATO campaign prevented a massacre and contributed mightily to Qaddafi’s undoing without deploying boots on the ground or suffering a single American fatality.”

Kerry warned that, “the days ahead will not be easy,” and urged the international community to, “continue to stand with the Libyan people and support the creation of viable governing institutions.”

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-kerry-libya-20111020,0,655396.story




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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 02:33 PM
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1. Here is the Foreign Policy article that focused on Obama being vindicated
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 05:50 PM
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2. Well, this celebration of death makes me a little bit nocious.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-11 05:50 PM by Mass
I certainly does not cry on Qaddafi's death and do not fault president Obama for it, but I do not see it as something that needs to be hailed either.

I have supported helping Libya. I hope the Libyan people will be able to create a better future for themselves. But it is hard for me to get why we need to be so bloodthirsty and celebrate a death. We should celebrate the Libyan people taking their fate into their own hands. We should strive to help them if they ask for it. But it still bothers me that we celebrate death.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-11 08:30 PM
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3. I agree and wish he could have stood for trial
I also worry that it is too early to really take credit - though all statements did speak of the fact that the Libyans had a long way to go.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-11 08:20 PM
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4. I agree with you on the issue of a trial. It bothers me that he as killed.
It seems just a little to convient. I think the death needs to be investigated.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-11 06:50 AM
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5. Agree as well
Edited on Mon Oct-24-11 06:53 AM by Inuca
As you said, I shed no tears but makes me feel uncomfortable. I did not watch any of the TV coverage. OTOH I am not sure investigating the exact manner of his death is a good idea... I am all for justice and the rule of law, but it's a different world out there. They do live by different rules, whether we like it or not + I do not think we can nor should attempt to judge the level of frustration and resentment. I remember 20+ years ago when Romania's Ceausescu was executed. It had the very superficial appearance of legality, there was some kind of trial, but a completeley ridiculous one, and both Ceausescu and his wife (who was very active politically and hated maybe even more than he was) were executed right away. Though I was already out of the country for almost 15 years at the time, but visiting often, my reaction was still much more of a gut reaction rather than the rational one I can have about Ghadaffi. I still disliked very much what was done though, and felt really bad about it.

Edited to add why I am not sure investigating Gadaffi's death is a good idea (I got side tracked :-)): everybody says that there is a lot a good will for the West, the US included, right now, and that's a good thing. I am not sure the good will can survive being called savage murderers. I am nnot sure for how long it will last in any case, but a lot of international puffing and huffing will definitely not help.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-11 03:34 PM
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6. yeah, but then i think imagine if someone like cheney was in office for decades here
and this is without elections . so you have to try to see from their side.

but they should also know that it doesn't help their image to do this. and focus should be on improving the lives of the libyan people.

maybe it will prevent some other possible future leader from doing what Gaddafi did.
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