John Edwards Response to the Dean misquote flap!

[saracat]

This is really well done, but I suppose the ones who want a conspiracy will never believe him.I can summarise, he said what I did "no big deal" !:shrug: Thanks John for working together! andnot having to be a
bobblehead!


We Agree: Working Americans Let Down by the Republican Party

What a flap has arisen over a disagreement about the way something is said! I was in Nashville over the weekend, thanking the good people of Tennessee who supported the Democratic presidential ticket this year, when I was asked whether I thought that it was fair to say that people who were Republican hadn’t done a good day’s work. Of course, I didn’t think so, and I said that. I don’t think our DNC chair, Howard Dean, would put it that way again if asked either. I disagreed with him, and I said so. And, I want to be clear, I would have to say so again if I were asked again. I said a lot of good things about Howard’s outreach program and invigoration of the internet as a communication and fundraising tool, but no one wrote about that. Instead the headlines blared that I disagreed with Howard. And then the flap arose: A chasm! A split! A revolt!

Instead, how about: Nonsense!

We are both talking about the Republicans and their failure to address the needs of working people. We both agree with this basic truth: This Republican president and this Republican majority are not doing what they should be doing for working people in this country. That’s a core belief we need to fight for. And what’s more, we agree that we - all Democrats and all working people - should be complaining, criticizing, and generally speaking out about this critical failure of the Republican party and offering our positive vision for America. And we have.

Howard and I have been saying the same thing about this for years. Hear that? The same thing. For years. Have I ever put it some way that Howard wouldn't agree with? Probably. And he put it in a way, once, just the other day, that I can’t agree with, since I come from a place where hard-working people, who are better served by the agenda and passion of the Democrats, somehow still vote Republican. But Howard and I are committed to a 50-state strategy that will reach out to those voters, in North Carolina, and in Kansas, and in Tennessee, across this country and tell the truth about what is happening in this country to their jobs, to their health care, to their forests and streams, to their vision of what this country is and should be.

This President is not fighting for our jobs. His administration has on numerous occasions said that the out-sourcing of American jobs is good for this country. Well, it may be good for Wall Street, but it is lousy on Main Street. If he thinks that jobs moving overseas is good for us, why would he ever fight for American jobs?

Our labor laws have seen weak enforcement during the time we have had this Republican administration in place. Companies that skirts this country’s labor laws have gotten a slap on the hand, and even that has come too slowly. Efforts to allow workers to choose whether to unionize have not been protected in the way that they should, and the mutually beneficial bargain between labor and management that made this country the greatest economic power in the world has been broken, all while the Republican administration and Republican majority stand idle, with their hands dug deep in their pockets.

Those working people I grew up that I talked about earlier live where I lived, in our rural communities, which is exactly where this Republican president wants to cut broadband extension, firefighter grants and investment and market access programs that will protect our rural jobs. The manufacturing extension program, which helps small manufacturers everywhere stay profitable - and therefore open, gets little support from this President. How are our towns going to remain vital with policies that ignore them? Where will the sons and daughters in our rural communities have to go to find jobs?

And this President has made choices that, if enacted by the Republican majority in Congress, will deny the opportunity to learn the skills for a new job to an untold number of Americans. Vocational and adult education would be cut by 89%. He wants to drastically cut adult education and retraining programs that allow American workers to better their skills either to get ahead or to get a new job when theirs leaves for overseas.

And if you happen to be a working man or woman in the United States military, this Republican president doesn’t support loan forgiveness for your student loans or top quality health care when you get out of the military.

The safety net is eroding. The ladder has been pulled up. This is not new. For more than two decades, the Republican Party has talked about an agenda that addresses concerns of working people while they have passed an agenda that serves the goals of the wealthiest among us. Howard and I know that these are the wrong choices for America. We won’t always use the same words. But we will always fight the same fight: for the dignity, the respect, and the rights of those who built this country, the working people in America.

Your friend,

John

Source: http://www.oneamericacommittee.com /
Link to his post: http://blog.oneamericacommittee.com/article.pl?sid=05/0...

[sandnsea]

1. Dumbest. Flap. Ever.

Another example of people who whine about the media letting themselves be pulled around the nose by the exact same media. When will they learn to ignore this shit?

[JI7]

2. i'm not sure, i think there is a need to be viewed as victims

or persecuted by some. that's why you saw a bunch of shit about how it was about the dlc going after Dean and trying to bring him down.

even if one disagreed with Edwards and Biden it sure wasn't a thing that should have generated such responses.

[sandnsea]

4. Yeah, Republicans are lazy leaches

Is that what they think Edwards should have said? They think we can win elections that way?

The whole thing is just silly. Dean's Dean, that's what they want. They shouldn't be surprised that everybody doesn't agree with it. He lost the primary after all.

And like I said about Dean's MTP appearance, the bad part is that the media ends up covering this nonsense instead of our agenda.

Next thing you know, the lack of coverage on our agenda will be a media conspiracy too, instead of covering these red meat statements which is what they say they want.

[JohnKleeb]

3. Whats the exact Dean quote

I know it was something to do with republicans being dishonest. I am gonna say it again, Dean's problem isnt his stances on issues, hes main stream though a little too centrist leaning for my personal liking compared to the more liberal leaning Kerry is that he is terrible at wording things, and I dare say inconsistent, he got in trouble in the primaries for refusing to judge Osama Bin Laden's guilt or was it Saddam , anyhow thats ok but then he says that Delay belongs in jail a few weeks back, so hes not willing to prejudge Saddam or Bin Laden but hes willing to prejudge Delay who is very crooked of course but Saddam and Bin Laden are worse people than Delay is. Just my humble opinion on this, Dean really needs to word things a lot better or we will be in trouble during midterms because of stuff like this recent flap and the Delay belongs in a jail cell comment.

[saracat]

5. Here is the quote John and I agree 100%

Speaking to the Campaign for America's Future, Mr. Dean called for easier rules for voting, saying it is difficult for working parents to make it to the polls on time and wait to vote.
"Well, Republicans, I guess, can do that, because a lot of them have never made an honest living in their lives," Mr. Dean said. "But for ordinary working people, who have to work eight hours a day, they have kids, they got to get home to those kids, the idea of making them stand for eight hours to cast their ballot for democracy is wrong."

More at..
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050603-123932-6657r..

[JohnKleeb]

6. Seems to me like he is very much so pandering than being sincere

I say this because I know Dean was brought up a republican and worked with the republican legislature a lot as governor of Vermont. Its not the individual republican I dislike, its not even really the congressional republican, its the Delays, the Haserts, the Frists, the McConnells, Bushes etc that I dont like and respect.