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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 05:13 PM
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I am (cautiously) sensing a seachange, my friends.
I have been here about 4 years, and I am just now feeling that we are getting through.

It couldn't have happened without your diligence in these post-election months.

Those of you who have been here a long time know I never take any positive swing seriously as it tends to be temporary for this crowd.

But now....something's changing. The facts are finally sinking in.

Anyone else getting that vibe?
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 06:25 PM
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1. I definitely am.
A lot of Kerry supporters seem to be emboldened to speak out. The lefty freepers seem to have nearly run out of wind - and ammo. Everything they bring up against him is tired and/or discredited.

I also think Katrina may have been a bucket of cold water in the face for those who keep whining about Kerry - he's looking a lot better even to them these days.

I think that Boondocks cartoon yesterday said it all.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:21 PM
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2. Part may be that he is just very easy to defend
Think of what he's done in the last 2 weeks. (Which I won't list because Globalvillage already did an incredible job of doing just that) There is no one working on so many fronts at the same time and being so completely on-target.


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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:40 PM
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4. Yep, that about sums it up n/t
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:54 PM
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5. You know, it started when Whome started posting those jeans pics
Coincidence? I think not.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 09:13 PM
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9. lol
Yes well, between the jeans pics and the lover's haikus, who could resist!!!
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 09:14 PM
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10. Ya think??
Did I create a seismic shift in the cosmos??

This one's my new favorite, though. Oh. My. God.

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 09:23 PM
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11. That is a nice pic.
Geez, he has nice arms. I think you're on to something with those shirtsleeve photos.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 09:50 PM
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13. HOLY SHIT
*swoons*

:loveya:

:evilgrin:

Cannot form complete sentences... cannot form coherent thought... arghrrhgrhgblub gurgle... pant pant... *drool*


That, er, bat, is er, mighty symbolic, isn't it? :evilgrin:
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:00 PM
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14. Leave it to you to
get that!! :D

I was too busy staring at his arms... :evilgrin:
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:10 PM
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16.  Imagine those arms...
... propped above your recumbent body... :o ;) :evilgrin:
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:38 PM
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17. He's pointing that bat
right at you.

:evilgrin:
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:59 PM
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19. Mmmmmm
Delicious! :9
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:09 PM
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15. self delete
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 10:10 PM by WildEyedLiberal
posted in wrong spot
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 01:01 AM
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21. Landsakes...
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 07:27 PM
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3. Kerry's been a pretty prominent Dem lately
Yeah I sense a more positive note around DU--we touched on this the other day, too. Either the freeps have had the wind taken out of their sails because of *, and have given up infusing DU with daily doses of arsenic, or the Kerrycrats are winning the war, using plain facts, against the lefty freeps, or it's been long enough after the election that more have worked through their grief and anger and have decided to redirect it to * where it belongs--or a combination.

I hope it's permanent!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:09 PM
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6. History of the Democratic Party (Condensed.)
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 08:11 PM by TayTay
In the beginning, Gawd created the heavens and the earth and all that other stuff and then got bored and decided to create Democrats. At first there were only two, and it was good. And they got along real well until:

"Wow, we both agree that we should run the garden in peace and harmony and take care of the animals and see to the plants and not spoil our living space and share and divide the harvest and encourage each other all we can. This is paradise. Apple?"
"Is that MacIntosh or a Granny Smith?"
"Granny Smith, why?"
"I hate Granny Smith apples. They are sour and green and gross. They suck. Anyone who likes Granny Smith apples is a tool of the fascist military industrial complex and I can't possibly co-habitate with them."
"Oh yeah, well MacIntosh apples are common and lack imagination and don't taste as good in pies. Purest bastard. I can't co-habitate with you."

And so they separated, unable to agree on what apple to eat at the moment. Sigh! And Gawd saw this and laughed and laughed. And wasn't bored anymore. (Sometimes I question Gawd's motives. Sadist.)

Later on in the Garden, after Gawd saw fit to create snakes and rats and goats and Rethugs the two Democrats passed each other.

"Oh, fascist imperialist lackey of the corporate elite. How ya been."
"Not bad, you ignorant, unrealistic follower of lost causes. How's by you?" And they smirked at each other and kept their distance.

And just then a terrible rampaging mastodon burst out of the trees at the edge of the Garden and ran toward them at full speed. They knew that if they were ever to get out of the path of this horrible animal they would have to work together. So one Democrat picked up a bow and the other supplied the arrows and together they slew the horrible beast by working in harmony. And later on they had steaks on the grill. And although they retained their intense dislike of each other's choice in apples, damn could they hunt together when they had to.

And Gawd laughed and laughed. And wasn't bored any more. (Gawd just might be a Democrat, the jury is still out. But honestly, that trait of inciting trouble just for trouble's sake does sound familiar.)

In other words: There's Rethug blood in the water and it's driving Dems to consider Unity, the action of last resort. We may not like each other, but hot damn do we really despise those other guys.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:44 PM
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7. That was great!
I laughed my ass off. Thanks for the excellent post! :D
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 08:49 PM
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8. That was wonderful, Tay Tay.
One of your best, and that's no small feat.
Take a bow, my friend.
:yourock:
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 09:28 PM
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12. Thank you! Bow taken.
Edited on Tue Sep-13-05 09:30 PM by TayTay
Though I always have fun writing them. They take just a few minutes and are just too much fun to do. So, I guess it's kind of hoggish of me to take a bow, cuz, they wuz easy pickins and, well, I made myself laugh. (Sigh! Isn't making yourself laugh one of the signs of insanity?)
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:34 AM
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23. Man, I would love to see that in GD.
.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 07:45 AM
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24. ???????????? But it's so little
It's not serious. It's a triffle. ?????????????
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:03 AM
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25. Your "tale" is exactly what this board needs.
And your humor cuts through BULLSHIT like butter.

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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:11 AM
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26. Ahm, Okay. I'll post it if you like
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 08:18 AM by TayTay
I am still working on a better explanatory intro for the 'DSM letter' post from yesterday. (That's really intreigues me. Why didn't the text of the letter get posted? The internets leak like a sieve, so how come I couldn't find a reference to that letter from Sen. Roberts that basicially told Kerry to stop asking for DSM hearings. That was weird.)

Done for you blm: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4765976

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:16 AM
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27. Have you asked Kerry's office to email you a the text of the letter?
Maybe kerrygoddess can request it.
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:20 AM
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28. Okay, but the main point is not that I get it
but there was just thousands of posts on DSM. How could this have gone by and no one posted it? The Globe story yesterday was the first mention of it. That is so odd considering the level of interest in that subject. I should have thought it would be leaked and posted on every board that had mentioned DSM.

Just struck me as strange that a rebuttal letter didn't make the internets. Just odd.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 08:32 AM
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29. I agree. Very odd. We need to get it out.
.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-13-05 10:51 PM
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18. good point
With the enemy "on the run" so to speak, it's more fun to stand together and enjoy the moment.

Here's another theory:
Hurricane Katrina showed everyone in this country just how much leadership we do NOT have right now. We just have a bunch of screw-ups in charge of the nation. Which creates a vacuum, and even people on DU want to feel like there is a grown-up or two that has some clout in Washington.

In other words, at a time like this,they realize they need the guy.
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 12:46 AM
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20. COOL IT GUYS AND GALS!!
Boy do I need the Guy!! I'm an "arm" person too Tay Tay!! and here I am all alone!! My late husband had arms like John K. It was what attracted me to him from the very first time we met. Another thing I love is a GREAT SMILE!! and boy, JK has that too !! Do you suppose Teresa would let us all CLONE him? I think I'd better go take my shower(a cold one) and say good night. I have enjoyed all of your posts tonight! ;-) There's still fire in this 66 yr young womans "furnace"!!:blush:
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 01:16 AM
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22. DC, You rock!!
John has such intergenerational appeal! I am 20 and he could put his shoes under my bed ANY night he pleased. I love how John appeals to all ages of women Kerrycrats here. Now THAT is true sex appeal. :loveya:
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 10:35 AM
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30. Wow there does seem to be a sea change
Edited on Wed Sep-14-05 10:36 AM by karynnj
Look at this thread. I know it's an annoying 2008 thread - but scan the responses , especially 22 - 24. A month ago, Kerry would have been listed in the other group - where he never belonged - and look at who's posting. (I'm sure there will be bashers at some point - but this is different.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2086431&mesg_id=2086431
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