Wicked good times!

[Vektor]

These are fun!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=2508897

[JI7]

1. fuck yeah

our John losing in another poll. the day he starts winning in these polls is when i might feel he doesn't have much chance if he were to run as a national candidate .

[Mass]

2. 31 % for Gore presidential campaign.

0 % for Dukakis.

I guess these people are not that liberal after all, or that they need to learn about history.

[karynnj]

3. I doubt they could pass a test on Gore's positions

They have taken the angry post 2000 Gore speeches as the 2000 campaign and ignored Gore's entire pre- 2002 life. I almost wonder if the "Gore" they currently support isn't a stand in for the leader who represents their own frustration and alienation from the government.

That Gore was a very solid, conservative Democrat who was an insider's insider - he also was the "good" son - who went to Vietnam (partially to help his dad) and into politics, at least partially to live up to family expectations. The odd thing is that many of his fans now likely would have not been thrilled with him during any of his early runs for the Presidency, when he was VP and in 2000.

He is genuinely outraged, as are most Democrats looking at the last 5 years. If he were going to run though he would need to temper the anger and outrage with hope and some optimism that thigs could be fixed even now. The anger and outrage play only to the fringe - others will agree with the condemnation of Bush co, but will want something positive to follow.

[ProSense]

5. Knee-jerk polls

Based on an appearance quote, speech anybody is the "most" liberal or "great" candidate. Actually it's worse than knee jerk, somtimes it plain ignorance of the person's position on the issues. Webb in VA is a prime example. Former Republican and vet who opposes the war, and they think he is excatly the same as Clark. Not that Clark is liberal, but Webb is not Clark.

[wisteria]

4. You are absolutely right. This one in particular would concern me

if he were leading.