Interested article about the NH phone jamming case - ref to WH & McCain

[_dynamicdems]

This link was posted in the NH forum here at GD. Seems the dots are finally being connected.

http://www.buzzflash.com/alerts/06/03/ale06035.html

A few highlights:

Washington, DC - A new report suggests that the national Republican establishment--including the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Senatorial Committee, and even the Bush White House--may have had a role in the criminal Election Day phone jamming scheme that disenfranchised countless New Hampshire voters in 2002.

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"The Union Leader today reported that "court records show Ken Mehlman's office received more than 75 telephone calls from now-convicted phone-jam conspirator James Tobin from Sept. 30 to Nov. 22 of that year."

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"Today's news also has important implications for other national Republican figures. At the time the phone jamming scheme was devised and implemented, Tobin's supervisor at the RNC was Terry Nelson, who Arizona Republican Senator John McCain recently hired as a senior strategist for his Political Action Committee. This means that McCain may have hired one of the key figures in the phone jamming scheme.

If anyone had doubts about what a scumbag McCain is, this should confirm it.

And also to note for all those folks who still blame JK for conceding the election when he did: there was no way to prove fraud then, but the truth will come out eventually. It has taken YEARS to get justice in the phone jamming case and it is still an ongoing investigation. There are still more Republicans to jail over this and blue NH isn't about to give up until every last one of them sees justice.

[karynnj]

1. Thanks for posting this - it is depressing that McCain (or anyone)

will take these people. I really hope people begin to see through the garbage he does.

Your point on proving fraud having taken years is very well taken. This fraud was also easier to identify - they knew they couldn't use their phone lines on election day - and it still took years to prove how the lines were disabled and by whom.

[_dynamicdems]

2. Yup, it took years. And John Kerry was a prosecutor. Who better to

know the score. He also had the advice of 400+ lawyers. He did the only thing he could. Sometimes you have to retreat from a battle so you live on to fight another day. And isn't he fighting beautifully lately?

[whometense]

3. This is great, DD.

Thanks for the link. I've been following this story for ages (largely thanks to Josh Marshall's diligence), and I think of all the Bush scandals this one most closely resembles Watergate. A low-level, bungling theft that leads right into the Oval Office.

I've put a post up about it here: http://toughenough.org/2006/03/mccain-just-one-more-corrupt.html

[_dynamicdems]

5. I LOVE the post you did on ToughEnough.org!

"McCain: just one more corrupt republican"

That makes my day! I feel about McCain the way TayTay does about George Allen. He's a toad.

[whometense]

6. Thanks so much!

I'm trying to keep up a steady drumbeat on him. So many scandals - unfortunately, there are enough to go around. It seems like each blog could take one on and there wouldn't be any overlap!

[globalvillage]

7. McCain - so many reasons to despise...

My top 10
He's mean. Chelsea/Janet Reno comment, Obama letter
He's weak on national security. Iraq, ports, Katrina
He's a media whore (I think Imus has a 'thing')
The anti-torture bill that wasn't
Cheated on his first wife with his second and others
Let bush* et al trash his family and his service
Connected to Keating and Bonano
Racist. Hates "gooks", but seems to like Geo Wallace Jr well enough
Batshit crazy hypocrite

Oh hell, that's just nine.

He's pasty. His nasty, pasty bush* kissing face turns my stomach.

That's 10. I'm sure there's more.


Stay on him, whome. He's a disingenuous, nasty, evil, dangerous and very creepy man.

[whometense]

9. I'm on it.

;-)

I'm amassing a warchest full of nauseating photos.

Look at this one:




ewwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!

Filched this one from my buddy Shaun at Upper Left:

[globalvillage]

10. For your collection.

[whometense]

11. oh my god.

He looks like a rabid woodchuck.

Thanks. :rofl:

[TayTay]

12. Popeye on steroids.

McCain has 'roid rage. Look out!

Okay, I like Whome's rabid woodchuck remark. It fits very, very well.

Whome that strip of pics with *, geez, they should just get a room. It's sooo obvious tha McCain wants to commit, maybe it's Bush who isn't ready just yet. (Hold me.)

[whometense]

13. I know!!

It's so obvious when you see them in a row like that.


Shuddder. They are two u-g-l-y men. Inside and out. But mostly inside.

[_dynamicdems]

14. Now he's giving the commencement speech at Falwell's Liberty University!

McCain has flipflopped again. Now he's good buddies with Falwell. Didn't he once call Falwell an "agent of intolerance"?

I'm sure there will be some really yucky photos from this unholy union.

edit: :puke:

http://www.liberty.edu/index.cfm?PID=6848&NewsID=131

[Island Blue]

15. Pander much McCain?

McCain, more than any other Republican who might run in '08, makes me want to :puke: . (And that's saying a lot because there are quite a few potential Republican candidates who make me very queasy.) I just don't trust this man AT ALL. I'm convinced he will say and do anything to get what he wants. He has the morals of a Bush.

[karynnj]

21. You know, I feel the same

He clearly has the ability to deceive that Bush has - I really don't understand how you can simultaneously be considered a straight talker, but appear as a moderate to moderates and a conservative to real conservatives. Now, he's going after the Falwell crowd. He is a charlatan.

The only thing that make me think more principles were there was Kerry's relationship with him. It's clear that that is gone since 2004, which doesn't seem true of his relationship with other Republicans. That McCain continued to mock or trash Kerry after the election was unbelievable.

[ProSense]

4. Phone jamming was a national effort.

McCain is truly aligning himself with criminals

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2537750&mesg_id=2537750

[globalvillage]

8. He has a history of it. n/t

[globalvillage]

16. I can't freaking believe this ahole

McCain is on Imus AGAIN today, Imus saying he wouldn't vote for anyone in '08 but McCain.
I swear there's something going on there. Why would anyone support this jerk? What, exactly, has McCain done that would make him a viable candidate?

Ick. I hate McCain. He's the worst.

[karynnj]

17. Imus is just weird

He picks people who go on his show, amuse him and support his causes. McCain charms many reporters and he shamelessly panders to them. Imus (and other people) eat that up. Imus is a registered Republican as is his wife - per their own statements.

I think his backing of Kerry, if you call it that, was that he admired and liked Kerry on a personal level - but likely politically is far to the right of him. He'd let Kerry speak, but then make idiotic statements afterward. On balance, it was likely positive - where if Kerry weren't a "friend" we would have heard every RW story on a daily basis - because that's what the crew do.

The McCain stuff is likely both political and political.

[ProSense]

18. IMUS is a clown.

Most of what he says on air is just babble.

[TayTay]

19. Well then, McCain has one vote

If they straw poll in Tennesse is any indication, he is going to have a lot of trouble getting more from the Rethug Party. They don't trust him. hehehehehe!

[wisteria]

23. Hey, maybe I will register in the primaries as a Repub, just to vote

against him, then change my party back to Democrat-just kidding. Mccain isn't worth all that effort. All we really have to do is show people that picture of McCain hugging Bush. That gets them all the time.

[_dynamicdems]

20. He is the worst. He's flipflopped more than Shrub lately.

He might just give King George a run for his money for the Golden Flip-Flop Award this year. I've been keeping a tally. It's impressive.

http://www.dynamicdems.com/flipflophalloffame.htm#mccain

[wisteria]

22. I have been watching Imus pimp for McCain for a while now. Frankly,

it is obnoxious. Today he even mentioned how handsome he was.He has been comparing him to Lincoln constantly. Imus has it in his head that McCain could unit this country. I have felt like dropping Imus a line a couple of times and sharing with him my opinion of McCain as a uniter. That whole show has just gotten terrible. They ridicule Democrats and praise most Republicans. Santorum has become a regular guest on the program too. I think Senator Kerry should tell Imus to go to hell,after Kerry's last call in, it was obvious that he will only be a target for asinine remarks and RW talking points.

I would love to see Senator Kerry take on McCain. McCain is a blowhard, Kerry knows enough about him that he could wipe the floor with him. I hoping that 2008 is the year we put and end to McCain.

[_dynamicdems]

25. Kerry v. McCain in 2008? Wow. I'd love to see JK go after McCain. n/t

[karynnj]

26. Way too early to go after McCain

I really think Kerry knows that Imus is what he is. He does though ususlly let Kerry answer questions -with little filtering. It gives Kerry a chance to be far less formal - and he is good at it. While running for President, he was going to be talked about.

It choice was to call in and sound classier, more intelligent than the crowd and very good humored. This then was balanced by Imus and the jerks saying they didn't understand him and making nasty jokes about him and his wife. Anyone not decided would make their judgement. If he weren't there all you would have are the crude obnoxious jokes - and they would likely be worse. (Also, at least when the Republicans were throwing the "terrorize" nonsense - the news guy (McCord?) was even more adament than Imus that Kerry had meant nothing wrong and that Kerry's suggestions were good. He was responding to seeing Kerry as a person.)

His endorsement of Democrats never is as complete as his endorsement of Republicans.

As to Kerry going after McCain, I don't think Kerry wants to be (or is suited to be) an attack dog. I think if they end up as the nominees - he will go after McCain on the issues. Two of Kerry's top assets are that he is genuinely classy and he is Presidential. McCain is likely to be a dirtier fighter - suggesting negatives with a disarming smile to his lapdog media. Seriously, how many people have you read any negative comments from Kerry on? - not counting OBL and Saddam. (In 2008, the press couldn't even get him to agree with Teresa on Santorum - with Kerry saying that he had gotten better (which I quess implies he agreed.)

[wisteria]

27. IMO, he will have to get tough on McCain. Playing the nice guy and

expecting to win it on issues alone will not do it. Kerry can be tough,not attack dog, but intimidating tough, the kind that makes you uneasy and uncomfortable, and with that in mind, I suggested that he could wipe the floor with McCain.Imagine a couple of well praised negative words directed at Senator McCain and watch him struggle not to get angry. McCain is never challenged. He has free reign on talk shows, he is rehearsed and has the answers down pat. I am sure Kerry is very aware of some of Mccain's weak spots.he should use them all against him.
Oh, and I am not suggest that he do anything now, I refer to the 2008 elections. I really believe that Senator Kerry is the only other candidate that will give McCain a run for his money. I can't even imagine Clinton coming close.

[karynnj]

29. Sorry, I wasn't meaning that he wouldn't be tough on him on the issues

Just picture the Kerry who regularly grills Condi. McCain couldn't last 5 minutes, I'd bet. I agree that he would be the best against McCain. Side by side, Kerry is just better.

[wisteria]

30. That was what I was getting at, Kerry grilling McCain. I would

think Senator Kerry would be victorious.

[wisteria]

24. I just though of something. Maybe we should send Imus that

picture of McCain hugging Bush. We could blow it up to wall poster size. he might enjoy it.

[_dynamicdems]

28. He'd be jealous. * hugging his McCain. n/t