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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:43 AM
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Book Review - Cobra II
Edited on Sun Apr-02-06 11:44 AM by globalvillage
I think Sen Kerry mentioned this book the other day in one of his radio interviews, didn't he?
I have a long flight coming up, I think I'll pick up a copy and give my review when I return.

'Cobra II: The Inside Story of the Invasion and Occupation of Iraq' by Michael R. Gordon and Bernard E. Trainor
How IRAQ went awry
Sunday, April 02, 2006

By Bob Hoover, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

As the story unfolds in this impressive account, one man was missing in action among the large cast of participants in the planning and execution of the administration's takeover of Iraq.

He is George W. Bush, the former school cheerleader who endorsed rather than devised the strategies and decisions that find America still trying to bring order to a chaotic Iraq three years after the invasion.

Whether cheering on the troops at Thanksgiving or landing in a jet on a Navy aircraft carrier with the banner, "Mission Accomplished," the president appeared to make no tactical decisions, contribute any ideas or offer any alternatives to Cobra II, the military's name for the invasion.
...
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/06092/678487-148.stm


on edit, anyone know approx how many times Sen Kerry called for Rummy to be fired?
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 11:46 AM
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1. I lost track after 3 (calls for Rummy's resig.) n/t
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 04:26 PM
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6. Here are a few.
I'm pretty sure there are more. Sheesh. Hey, someone ought to call for Rummy's resignation, don't ya think?

Dean, Kerry call on Rumsfeld to quit
Defense secretary accused of ‘pattern of deception’ on Iraq

The Associated Press
Updated: 12:56 p.m. ET Sept. 26, 2003
WASHINGTON, Sept. 26 - Democratic presidential candidates Howard Dean and John Kerry have called for Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld to resign, citing a “pattern of deception” in his statements on Iraq and a failure to plan for the postwar period.


KERRY, A SENATOR from Massachusetts, first said Thursday that Rumsfeld should step down, saying he proceeded in Iraq “in an arrogant, inappropriate way that has frankly put America at jeopardy.”

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3087318/



Kerry: Rumsfeld Should Quit

May 6, 2004

(CBS/AP) Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry has renewed his call for Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld to step down amid the growing scandal over the alleged abuse of Iraqi prisoners by U.S. soldiers, reports CBS News' Steve Chaggaris.

"I called for Rumsfeld's resignation months ago over Iraq," Kerry told reporters Thursday. He said the abuse reports only compound the reason for Rumsfeld to quit.

"It's the way it was handled. The lack of information to the Congress, the lack of information to the country, not managing it, not dealing with it, recognizing it as an issue. But look this is, this is the frosting," Kerry said during a campaign appearance at a California high school.

"I think Iraq and the miscalculation and the overextension of the armed forces and the entire way in which they rushed the nation to war under these assumptions that he was making — which were incorrect — is a huge, historic miscalculation and I thought he should have resigned then."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/07/politics/main616272.shtml



Kerry Suggests Replacements for Rumsfeld
Thursday, May 13, 2004

WASHINGTON — Presidential candidate John Kerry (search) said Wednesday the war in Iraq (search) is a failure and that a shake-up is needed to end the Bush administration's mistakes and incompetence, a sharp critique that sparked more Republican criticism that the Democrat is making the war a political issue.

"Why should we reward more of the same? Why should we reward miscalculations of what it would take to make the peace?" Kerry asked in an interview with Associated Press Radio. "I think that it's been one miscalculation after another, frankly. And arrogance that has lost America respect and influence in the world."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,119741,00.html




Kerry: Rumsfeld 'accountable' for Abu Ghraib
Oakland Tribune, Aug 26, 2004 by Jodi Wilgoren, New York Times


GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Teeing off two reports detailing abuses at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq, Sen. John Kerry on Wednesday renewed his call for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld to resign, citing the need for "accountability that runs through the civilian command."

"It's not just the little person at the bottom who ought to pay the price of responsibility," Kerry told union members at a steamfitters hall in Philadelphia before heading to Green Bay. "Harry Truman had that sign on the desk and it said, 'The buck stops here.' The buck doesn't stop at the Pentagon. And in this case it doesn't just stop with any military personnel."

Speaking on the same day that the Army announced that 35 military intelligence soldiers had been implicated in prisoner abuse at Abu Ghraib, Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee, also called on President Bush to appoint another commission to probe the scandal, focused on the chain of command and the Geneva Conventions.

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4176/is_20040826/ai_n14580880



Wednesday, January 19, 2005

Kerry asks for supporters to sign Rumsfeld recall petition
Kerry, who recently returned from a Middle East trip that included a visit to Iraq, wrote in the letter to supporters "please join me in my call for President Bush to fire Donald Rumsfeld."

"He's the man responsible for the well-being of our troops. He's neglected his duty. He's made excuses. It's time for him to go," Kerry wrote.

http://ifk-johnkerry.blogspot.com/2005/01/kerry-asks-for-supporters-to-sign.html

Mr. President,
I was surprised and disappointed that you told the Washington Post last week that no Bush administration official should be held accountable for our failures in Iraq. As the situation worsens and more American lives are lost and troops deployed to the region, it's time to stop rewarding incompetence and to start demanding accountability. For the sake of our men and women in uniform and their families here at home, I urge you to start by replacing Donald Rumsfeld. His record of failure and his inability to play it straight with the American people and our troops overseas make him unfit to serve as Secretary of Defense for one more day, never mind four more years.

If you care about restoring our credibility around the world and our credibility with our troops on the ground in Iraq, you've got to start by removing Donald Rumsfeld as Secretary of Defense. That's why I am joining Senator John Kerry and hundreds of thousands of Americans in adding my name to the johnkerry.com petition calling for Rumsfeld's immediate removal from office.

I urge you to act without delay. We can't afford any more auto-penned letters of condolences and shifting stories about what kind of armor we have to protect our troops.

American soliders and their families are counting on you as Commander in Chief to hold those in charge of the war in Iraq to the highest standards.


Paid for by Friends of John Kerry, Inc.

http://www.johnkerry.com/petition/rumsfeld2.php





October 31, 2005
Kerry Blasts Rumsfeld Again
Colmes asks, and Senator John Kerry (MA) blasts:

COLMES: Do you think there should be resignations, with or without indictments?
KERRY: Well, I said about two years ago that I thought Donald Rumsfeld should resign because his management of the war has really been inexcusable. Every prediction made has been proven to be wrong.

He neglected the most important thing, which is do all you can to protect the troops. And still, there are problems with up-armored Humvees or armor. I think it's a disgrace, and I think he should have long ago resigned.

http://www.dems.us/2005/10/kerry_blasts_ru.html




December 05, 2005

Kerry: Rumsfeld should be fired

By Rick Maze
Times staff writer


Democrats are drawing a bead on Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, with Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., becoming the latest Democrat to call for the Pentagon chief’s firing.
“The president owes it to our troops serving in Iraq to remove Secretary Rumsfeld and replace him at the Pentagon with a defense secretary who understands the situation on the ground in Iraq and who will advance, not undermine, American values around the world,” Kerry said in a statement Monday.

Kerry, the failed Democratic presidential candidate last year, said Rumsfeld is sending “dangerous mixed signals about Iraq.”

“Does the defense secretary really just throw up his hands and accept that ongoing terrorist attacks are inevitable in Iraq and for the foreseeable future? Is he now admitting that the Bush administration’s mistakes have made Iraq what it was not before the war — a haven for terrorists?” Kerry said.

http://www.navytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1394500.php


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fedupinBushcountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 12:10 PM
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2. It is on my list
Kerry said it is a must read.

I lost track, I do know the first time was September '03, I can't remember if he had a petition for that one, but I think he may have. I know there were several petitions by Kerry to get Rummy to resign or fired. He was the first to call down Rummy.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 03:13 PM
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3. Well...I've got some good news, and some bad news.
The bad news is my local B&N was out of Cobra II
The good news is my local B&N was out of Cobra II

The sales person said it's been very popular. They have a list.

:-)
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_dynamicdems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 03:43 PM
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4. There are a lot of them available on eBay
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 04:12 PM
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5. I just picked up a copy of it. (It was 30% off. I was powerless to resist.
We are thinking alike. (Did you read the security book that was recommended last year. That was good, but a bit on the dry side.)

Hmmm, JK's book club. I like it! I like it a lot.

(Ahm, I also picked up the Misquoting Jesus book. More light reading. In my own defense, I was powerless to resist as the bastids at Borders put it at 30% off. They knew, they just knew I couldn't resist at that price. Bastids.)
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 04:36 PM
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7. I need to find a copy before Wed.
I have a couple books picked out for my trip, but I don't know if it'll be enough.

The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster (it was a gift)
Like No Other Time - Tom Daschle
An Unfinished Life (JFK) - Robert Dallek

What security book? Do you remember the title?
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 09:06 PM
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8. I found it.
Tramp, tramp, tramp. Up the stairs to the book cases. Sigh! I think it's on this shelf. No, but I never finished this other book, I wonder why that is? (TayTay sits and reads for a few minutes.) It then dawns on her that she had an actual purpose in looking for a specific book. Transfer newly found and unfinished but suddenly irresistibly interesting book to stack near bed. Start rummaging through for the other book. Find another book that had something in it I was thinking about the other day. Try and resist urge to sit on the bed and find the passage. I had an actual purpose in coming in here. I was supposed to find one book. Damn it. ADHD is a terrible thing to have.

Damn woman, never send me on a book run. It takes hours to retrieve one book.

America the Vulnerable by Stephen Flynn
How our Government is Failing to Protect Us from Terrorism. (Hmmm, feel-good bedtime reading it is not.)
Seriously, that really is a bit dry. (Remember, I watch Fisheries hearings. I am telling you it is a 'bit dry.')

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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-02-06 09:17 PM
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9. LOL. You crack me up.
Probably not something to read on a plane, either.
If it's that dry, I think I'll stick with Pres Kennedy and the FSM.
Maybe I can find a copy of Cobra II at the airport. There's a pretty good book store at PIT.
OTOH, I'd like to sleep through the flight. Enough alcohol and a really dull book will knock me out so I don't have to deal with the nicotine fits.
Thank you for searching.
:-)
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