Two days have passed. GD is now full of people who are dissing Kerry

[Mass]

because he did not say the exact same words that they would have liked him to say.

Strange how the same thing happens everytime:

- D day: Kerry bashing stay silent.
- D day + 1 : Kerry does not connect. Too little too late.
- D day + 2 : he is a neo-con. He is an hawk. He should not run.

Some people are really stupid. Or rather here to distort (some of the people I saw rarely past and generally to attack Democrats when they do something good.

[karynnj]

1. Strange that if this were Feingold's speech

they would still be in heaven. It may be that when Kerry does things like this, he outshines everyone. Their favorites are pale in comparison. It is interesting that there is less bashing between (Feingold and Edwards) fans, or (Clark and Warner) fans or any combination not including Kerry. Hillary is the favorite but not here. It's like they realize that they are in the not-Hillary candidate competition and Kerry is a threat.

[Mass]

2. I think unfortunately the agenda is clear - Look at the name of

the person they support (if it was Feingold, some of them would be elated). It seems to me that some people are thinking that Kerry is going into their favorite's turf and are trying to defend him.

Some people seem sincere, but I have crossed path with a couple of people several times today and they will jump in each and every thread concerning Kerry and are clearly irritated that he is having a positive answer.

[JI7]

24. i don't think they are all true Feingold supporters either

why arne't they doing anything to support Feingold. especially the censure proposal.

it seems like they only cared about censure as a way to bash Kerry. when it was clear that Kerry was one of the few who did support it , they suddenly lost interest.

[Vektor]

3. Always. Anytime Kerry does something good...

the trolls, fringe lunatics, and penis enviers appear, en masse.

They bore me at this point.

[Island Blue]

4. Trolls and Osama bin Laden magically appear

every time JK delivers a smack down. Strange coincidence?

[whometense]

6. heehee

:tinfoilhat: V-e-r-y strange...

Freeperville is going nuts. Lefty freeperville is going nuts. And all the Kerry bashers have to offer is a weak "too little too late" and "he had his chance." Nothing on the content. Nothing on what it might have meant for a large portion of the country to hear him say what he said. I'm with Vek. Yawn. They are all closed-minded, and they don't matter one tiny little bit. I think that's where their hate really comes from - they want to dictate to the country, and the country ain't listening.

I have no idea what will come of all this. We still don't know if Kerry's going to run in 2008. But there is no fucking excuse for tearing down a democrat who stands up and says what the people have been begging them all to say. I'm still contemplating the roaring approval we heard in Faneuil Hall Saturday, and how best to describe it. The word that keeps coming into my head is "thirsty." The crowd was dying to hear him say those words, and they flat-out loved him for saying them. This was a crowd certainly predisposed to approve of him, but it didn't feel in any way like a campaign or partisan event. It felt like a coming out party. Kerry said what we all have known all along was in his heart - and it rang so true - in front of his family, his friends, and his supporters. It was an act of courage. For Kerry that's nothing new, but it was something wonderful to witness.

[karynnj]

7. But you know the really great thing?

As you said, "Freeperville is going nuts. Lefty freeperville is going nuts" , but Kerry just continues on Saturday at Fanueil Hall and Sunday on Snuffy simply calmly and intelligently speaking the truth. The chaos on each side has absolutely no impact. This is not an interest group or poll driven man, Joe Klein to the contrary.

Even before the speeches started, it was so nice to see Kerry's family (and friends) all greeting each other and people they knew. It was cool to see his daughters (from a distance). It had to be an awesome experience for them to hear this speech. After the speech, the applause went on forever and the room emptied very slowly - the energy in the room as he spoke was amazing. As,whome says people clearly loved everything he said. During the speech it was amazing that just when you thought you heard "the quote" from the speech, he said something else even better. I'm still overwhelmed.

[Island Blue]

10. From the angle shown on Cspan

it looked like Vanessa started one of the standing O's. What a classy family the Kerry's are. Of course many other Democrats have classy families too. Why is it you rarely hear of any arrests for drinking & drug related activity among the kids of prominent Democrats? (That's a rhetorical question btw.)

I guess in a way we should all feel good about the JK-Hating Freepers Left and Right. If JK were truly an "irrelevant loser" (as some people say) why would they even waste their energy spewing their opinions upon the world?

[whometense]

11. She definitely did start one of them.

I noticed that myself. And approved. She is a class act, and she loves her dad so much.

[saltpoint]

12. She is a class act. The Dems' ticket in 04 featured a slew of great kids.

And two outstanding, accomplished wives.

[ProSense]

9. Exactly

"Freeperville is going nuts. Lefty freeperville is going nuts"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=364&topic_id=1012525&mesg_id=1013810

[ginnyinWI]

20. Also from that thread

Someone said the "Kerryettes" were going to show up to defend JK. So that's what we are--kind of like the Rockettes...all right everybody, line up and kick those feet up high now! ;)

[ginnyinWI]

14. Hungry for leadership

Left, Right and Center, we all are pretty much without a president,now, so there is truly a hunger or a thirst for a leader to step up. :) :)

[saltpoint]

5. Hard to say why there's such a delay in mods' reactions to those

threads.

They let them go on and on and on.

I think a lot of people who supported Kerry-Edwards over Bush-Cheney deserve some explanation for the lack of response to those character slams.

[politicasista]

8. Gore would never approve of anyone slamming a fellow Dem

Feingold wouldn't either. Just pathetic. Go figure. :(

[fedupinBushcountry]

13. So true

OMG, I've seen it all now, can you believe that someone says now he has to answer for Gore's lost election too. :banghead: :crazy:

[ginnyinWI]

15. What?

You mean it's now Kerry's fault, not Clintons? On what grounds, for heaven's sake?

[JohnKleeb]

16. Easy they like Clinton's style

and they hate Kerry's so Kerry is the whipping boy though he wasn't a member of the Clinton administration.

[fedupinBushcountry]

17. Yep

all his fault he has to answer for two elections before he wrll ever get a vote again.

Grounds- he's John Kerry.

These are the types we are dealing with on a daily basis. :argh:

[JohnKleeb]

19. Thats so ridiculous I could cry

I like Gore but he really was not the same person he was now in 2000 at least in rhetoric. Its these purer than thou liberals that make me increasing apolitical in some regards.

[karynnj]

23. Definitely true about Gore 2000

I wonder how many of his current loud supporters, voted for Nader or spoke of holding their noses?

[whometense]

25. It's actually quite amazing.

It seems that by simply having survived, Gore has outlived his infamy. A lot of these people have the attention span (and memory) of gnats.

I'm not going to go into my personal feelings about Gore, but just as some out in GD-Land see him now as a saint, in 2000 there were at least that many talking of holding their noses. Gore is a good and honorable man who would have made an incomparably better president than what was forced on us. But is there anyone else here who, be honest, remembers his campaign with some pain?

I honestly wonder sometimes what these people use for brains. Does anyone over the age of twelve really believe that somewhere out there the perfect candidate exists? I'm kind of glad to be going away right now because I'm biting my tongue till it bleeds in order to avoid saying what I really think of some of the other candidates...

[whometense]

18. I know we've said this a thousand times,

but it still completely amazes me how obvious this is.

If Kerry "doesn't connect" and "is a boring speaker" and is a "DLCer with no ideas", not to mention a "spineless panderer", you have to ask yourself why they feel the need to instruct him not to run. If he's that bad, he'll self-destruct on his own, won't he?

And conversely, if he continues to poll well, wouldn't you think they might revise their thinking to accomodate reality? Oh, my mistake. The reality part, I mean...:eyes:

[WildEyedLiberal]

21. My rebuttal:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1014925

[wisteria]

22. it is a predicable pattern. They are so obvious! n/t