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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-02-07 09:44 AM
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I just saw that the mass may be said in Latin again.
Any thoughts on that?

I am old enough to remember the Latin Mass. It was beautiful. I wouldn't mind hearing it again once in a while.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-02-07 11:46 AM
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1. What I remember of it is the congregation sitting silently through it, fidgeting.
EWTN has been adding Latin to their Mass and I think it takes away from it. Reciting it in a language no one understands, even if you can follow with a translation, does not I think add to an appreciation of what's going on.

But then I prefer opera sung in English.
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Beer Snob-50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-02-07 03:40 PM
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2. when it is done in latin people are just sitting through mass
while when it is done in your native tongue, you are able to participate and appreciate what is going on.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-02-07 10:54 PM
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3. I hope the bishops won't get in the way of this, as

some are already grumbling about it. The French bishops got in quite a dither about it. Sometimes I think many of the bishops are trying to destroy the Church.

Ever since I realized that the New Order Mass is a radical departure from the Mass of the centuries, not a translation from the Latin, I've wanted the old Mass back.

Our right to hear the Traditional Latin Mass was not taken away by Vatican II, as some think.

Vatican II was a pastoral council, not a doctrinal one, so the innovations in liturgy and even the idea of saying Mass in the vernacular were not orders from the Vatican, merely options. The bishops pushed the New Order heavily and let people think the Latin Mass was no longer allowed.

Both the Traditional Latin Mass and the New Order Mass should be freely available to the people. If both had been offered all along, the Church probably wouldn't have lost so many good Catholics and so many vocations. People left in droves in the years just after Vatican II and vocations dried up. And today something like 70% of Catholics don't believe in the Real Presence so it's obvious catechesis has been poor over the past forty years or more.

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leftyladyfrommo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-03-07 09:05 AM
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4. I kind of agree with you. Let them both be available.
I love the mass. But I also love the Latin - just the whole beautiful ritual of it.

Sometimes I like to just sit in the back and just let the beauty of the ritual kind of wash on over me. I don't want to participate - I just like to meditate on it all.
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-03-07 11:28 PM
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5. There's nothing like being immersed in the experience of the Mass,

hearing God addressed in an ancient language that we don't use in our mundane lives.

I pray we'll all have the option of the Traditional Latin Mass available to us before too long.
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JNelson6563 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-04-07 09:43 AM
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6. Back in the day
when I was Catholic I always perferred more traditional Mass over the more modern stuff. The more modern a parish's Mass, the less I liked it. I often went to the Carmelite monastary where things were as old fashioned as possible.

I think Latin is a beautiful language. The part of me that will always remain Catholic (in spite of my atheism) is pleased about this development.

Julie
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