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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-06-10 04:19 PM Original message |
Been waiting since July 13th for psychotherapy...today I'm told 7 more months |
At this point I am too flabbergasted to be angry about this.
Sept 25th 2009 I was arrested and detained against my will because according to someone in County gov't, I was a suicide risk because I was despondent on being fired. Who isn't bummed out about losing their job? Well, I was released from the county (for whom I was a financial burden) and into the care of the VA (for whom I am a financial burden). In July of 2010 my therapist threw in the towel and turned me over to her supervisor. Her supervisor determined that, as a person with: General Anxiety Disorder, Chronic Depression, cPTSD, Borderline and psychogenic amnesia, I was way too difficult for VA Out-Patient Mental Health in Milwaukee. So the previously mentioned supervisor moved to have my care provided by a private clinic. I was told on August 9 this could take -several- months. Well, 'several' can be parsed I admit that. BUT Now, 4 months later, I press the intake person at said 'fee-based' provider for "Behavioral Medicine," "How many NEW people get into your program per month?" I asked. The answer was 1-2. I am 14th on their list. That's seven more months of waiting on the -inside- track, and being a fee-based client (fixed reimbursement rates by US gov't about the same as Medicare), I doubt I am on the inside track, it's pretty easy for them to take a full rate paying customer deemed more "critical," and probably more profitable than I am. So the BEST window turns into an 11 month wait, the worst window? God knows; it could be out beyond a year from now...and though I hate to point out the obvious, "beyond a year" actually includes NEVER. What to do? Rock?, Paper??, scissors?!!! |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-07-10 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. Then there is peace... |
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Tobin S. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I don't believe in God or heaven or hell |
I think that when we die we are just gone. Nothing lives on.
But before death, I think we can have a good life and a good time. I hope your life gets better pretty soon. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-08-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. this really sucks. can you go back and yell at them at the va? |
maybe you can get some accountability.
in the meantime, take care as best you can. |
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laylah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. I have no pearls of wisdom to offer; |
however, I have many :hug: Love and healing thoughts heading your way.
Jenn |
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postatomic (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-09-10 03:06 AM Response to Original message |
4. I haven't known what to say |
From the outside looking in I see the possibility (duh?) that the process itself is making your personal situation worst. You'd think that someone would recognize this and open a door for you.
I can't get in your head. Nor you mine. I can't feel the pain you feel. We are all unique and it troubles me that the psych field likes to make determinations based on their own personal bias. But, playing the 'Therapist of the Month' game just makes things worst. Hate to suggest meds (I'm getting sick of all the pills), but there are mood stabilizers that do work. It got so bad with me that my SO was terrified of putting me in any kind of conflict or adverse situation because she knew I would react in a fearless - aggressive manner. I would just tell people what I really thought of them. Diplomacy and courtesy be damned. I had to do a lot of apologizing. I say push it harder. Talk to the Supervisor of the Supervisor. There's always someone else you can talk to. Put them on the spot; ask things like "do you REALLY care about helping me?" I don't know. Your words concerned me. I DO care about helping you but I don't have the magic key that will open the doors for you. :hi: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
5. Is someone doing this with you? |
We went through this for nearly five years and it was extremely destructive.
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 07:28 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I'm sorry, but I don't understand your reply |
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 07:59 AM by HereSince1628
In the subject line what do you mean by 'this' and what do you mean by 'with'?
Similarly in the content line what do you mean by 'this' and 'it'? I'm sure it's my own myopia, I can't seem to "see" anything clearly. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 11:10 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. It was me posting too late. |
Do you have one or some people to help you navigate this situation in real time? Family, friends?
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. No, I'm creating a paper trail of unfulfilled requests for my congressman |
It shouldn't be so difficult, but being that it is the VA that option is open.
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Is there a chance of getting someone from a local NAMI group |
to provide some back up for you? I guess the thing is, people treat you differently if you have a Fair Witness with you, even if all they do is show up and wait in a waiting room. Doug was turned away, denied meds, blablabla, many times and those decisions were reversed sometimes by the fact of my standing next to him or asking a question or in a couple of emergencies, saying something like, you either provide the services that will allow him to be at home or you get to keep him. Not an elegant solution but it got people off their butts a few times. Mostly, I was a prop and that worked to a degree.
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. I'm on my own for the most part. |
Having figured out the VA email ID structure, I now email all my communication with cc's to supervisors and patient advocate's offices. I've checked my medical file and I know that most of the emails end up in formal record so they aren't going to go away. I've also taken to carrying a digital recorder, because I frequently have episodes of amnesia around emotional conversations. And everytime I deal with VAMC mental health it seems things are emotional. I ask permission to use it so everyone knows it's on. The recorder seems to bring out better in-person behavior but it hasn't done anything for improving follow-ups to my various requests.
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-11-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. The recorder is a great idea. |
As a recovering mom, I'd feel better if you had someone to call and say, hey I need a body for when I go talk to so and so. My own mom used to call up her business partner: "Bill, I need a white guy to meet with me and the country". All he had to do was show up and hold up his tie and things changed.
Anyway, something to consider. You'd think that the patients' advocates' office would be able to do something like that. Good to see you. Yesterday was my birthday and I'm still here. I feel profound satisfaction in having outlasted a bunch of sonuvabitches. :party: |
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postatomic (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-12-10 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
13. Very glad to see you checking in |
:hi:
If the republicans don't kill the health care reform in 2012 Mental Health will be treated in the same manner as physical health. But 2012 seems like a million years away. |
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Fire Walk With Me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-14-10 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
14. I'm sorry to hear it! I'm just dual-diagnosis and I've asked my new doctor twice for a psychiatrist/ |
counselor. No reply...none expected.
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