Did you all catch this one?

[rockedthevoteinMA]

Melodybe (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-21-05 01:53 AM
Original message
Congress has already passed leg. to drug YOUR kids, here is the downlow


Edited on Tue Jun-21-05 02:01 AM by Melodybe

One of the petitions I have on my table is a petition in support for HR181, the Let Parents Raise Their Kids Act, written by Republican Representative Ron Paul. This is a big deal, ever read Brave New World? Well, that is what this legislation is all about. Tucked away in the Omnibus Spending Bill in December millions of dollars we allocated for the implementation of this program. This has ALREADY passed, thanks to the lobbyists of big pharmaceuticals our tax dollars are being spent to screen children for mental illness, once diagnosed they are required to take the medications prescribed to them. Their parents have NO say in this! They are NOT allowed to get a second opinion. If the parents argue or refuse to put their children on the meds, they could face parental neglect charges. I have called and written numerous emails to many in the corporate "news" media, that was months ago. Since you probably haven't heard about it, you can see how well they covered it.

Remember a time where every other commercial on television wasn't an ad for some miracle pill you should ask your doctor about? Well, when they made advertising prescription drugs legal this is the effect, NONE of the major "news" outlets will touch it, else they loose the BILLIONS of dollars they make every year in advertising.

Here is a link to a great explanation of the program and it's first lawsuit:

http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/061405Prin...

here is a link to everyone in the corporate, we're fine with the government drugging your kids, cause mine are in private school, whores:

http://www.rumormillnews.com/MEDIA_EMAIL_ADDRESSES.htm

Please, I beg you send this to everyone you know. Write a letter to the editor, write an e-mail to the corporate whores that refuse to cover it.

Thanks a lot,
Melody

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x3908769

I know that medication helps many of us in this group, but this does sound like a freebie to the pharmaceutical companies. I am steaming. There was an article posted before about this, from Mother Jones. I guess this is a program that was called TMAP in texas, and PennMap in Pennsylvania. I read the whole article... parents aren't allowed to be involved in the process of having their children screened, and if the child/parents refuse the meds, the state can come and take the child from them. :grr:

Edited to add link to the thread created by

undergroundpanther
Sun Apr-24-05 10:18 AM
Original message
New freedom commission already locking people up.


Edited on Mon Apr-25-05 08:47 AM by Skinner

The below superb article in the new _Mother Jones_
May/June 2005 issue ***EXPLODES*** the controversy
of psychiatric drugging of USA kids! Read how drug
companies are manipulating President Bush and state
officials to push drugs using "screening programs."

Did you know President Bush is calling for screening
*every* child and even every *ADULT* in the USA with
the drug company screening programs exposed below?

Are you next?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=276x1467

[DemExpat]

1. Yes, I am following this development.....

thanks for posting it here.

DemEx

[greyl]

8. I sincerely hope everyone is following the facts. nt

[mopinko]

2. it is a brave new world indeed.

there's some family values for you. you gotta hope that this will be thrown out in court, but if it goes to one of their paid judges, who knows. boy, after my own battles to get good care for my kid and now my hubby, i get the willies just thinking about it. oy.

[rockedthevoteinMA]

3. I get the willies too, I mean I have been so overmedicated before

and there was a thread in Late Breaking News about a bill in Maine where they want to force mentally ill patients to take their meds. Whatever happened to choice? :grr: And it's a freaking dem who is sponsoring it.

Posted by: truthpusher Tue Jun-21-05 10:07 AM

Bill would force mentally ill to take their meds


http://www.bangornews.com/news/templates/?a=115371

Bill would force mentally ill to take their meds
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Tuesday, June 21, 2005 - Bangor Daily News
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AUGUSTA - The mental health community is divided over a proposed new law that would require some people with mental illness to take prescribed psychiatric medications or face involuntary admission to a state hospital.

The initiative, known as "community commitment," had all-but-unanimous bipartisan support in both the House and Senate during the recently adjourned legislative session, but has been held over for reconsideration because it would draw about $600,000 over the next two years from the state's bare-bones General Fund.

(snip)

The Maine chapter of the National Alliance for the Mentally Ill, a leading organization that advocates for patients' rights, has refused to take a position on the community commitment bill for fear of splintering its membership. A NAMI spokeswoman said last week that while some providers and family members see the measure as a way to keep people healthy and productive, others find it coercive and an infringement of personal rights.

(snip)

The bill's sponsor, Sen. John Nutting, D-Leeds, said Monday that family members, frantic to protect the well-being of their loved ones, have been a primary driver of the proposal. Other pressures include the societal costs of having people with poorly controlled mental illness living in Maine communities, as well as the cost of repeated hospitalization or incarceration of those who become dangerous. The measure has the support of a broad coalition of health care groups and law enforcement officials.



complete story: http://www.bangornews.com/news/templates/?a=115371

[mopinko]

4. my daughter

was being treated by a shrink that i'm pretty sure was in the early stages of alzheimers. hint- we never got a bill. she ended up in the psych ward because of it.

[rockedthevoteinMA]

5. my gosh. I'm so sorry to hear that. I don't understand how some

of these asshats are allowed to practice medicine these days. I know sometimes I have gone to my psychiatrist and told him of problems I am having, and he would much rather up my dose of seroquel 100 mg, than actually talk with me... which I find can often be a better solution.

They teach us all in school to avoid the "drug pushers" on the street. What about the TV ads, and the guys with the script pad?

[Droopy]

6. The scariest thing is the lack of choice

Drug ads don't bother me. Most of the drug ads I see on tv are for sinuses and erections. And beer.

This is just another example of the influence that special interest groups have on our politicians. This is what happens when politicians start working for corporations instead of the people. It's probably been going on for a long time. We now just have leadership that is so heavy handed that they are opening up the doors for further abuse of the trust of the people. God save us.

[greyl]

7. More info, contrary to what has been presented thus far.

APA Action Alert - Call or Email Federal Legislators to Oppose H.R 181
Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) has again introduced legislation (H.R. 181, the Parental Consent Act) to bar use of federal funds for involuntary, mandatory, universal mental health screening. The bill responds to the alleged recommendation of the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health that school age children be universally screened for mental disorders without parental involvement or consent. The Commission made no such recommendation. The bill therefore bars the use of federal funds for a purpose that is not proposed.

The operative language of H.R. 181 may have little practical impact, but the bill also includes a litany of "findings" that are misstatements, distortions, or misrepresentations of various reports and studies on psychiatric care, DSM, and mental illness. For example, the bill states as a "finding" (of fact) that "it is all too easy for a psychiatrist to label a person's disagreement with the psychiatrist's political beliefs a mental disorder." Taken together, the 'findings" are little more than an overt attack on psychiatrists, other mental health professionals, and patients masquerading as "facts."


More>

[DemExpat]

9. Yes, parental consent will not be ignored, hopefully,

but the President's New Freedom Commission on Mental Health is something I am most wary of, along with every other policy intitiative coming from this administration.....

http://www.mentalhealthcommission.gov/

http://mentalhealth.about.com/cs/associations/a/freedomtoc.htm

Besides, who is going to objectively mental screen this President?

:evilgrin:

DemEx

edit: article from Mother Jones mentioned in the OP http://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2005/05/medicating_aliah.html

[greyl]

10. Our culture doesn't have an unbiased view of "insanity"

That's where my concern lies.