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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 03:06 PM
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i'm struggling with myself- and
balancing the almost self-abusive (old coping skill) obsession to 'be' here at DU and know what is happening....
.... and turning off everything about the world, and going underground- which for me means medicated sleep for an extended period, because it gets me past what might become a 'crisis' time.

i know i'm coming in here like everyone knows me- and i just can't give an adaquite introduction without feeling even more overwhelmed than i already am.... i have PTSD, and other dx- am on medication which i am taking 'religously' go to therapy weekly, and try hard to work at not 'losing' it- but this tragedy in NOLA has brought up so many feelings, and triggered so many old struggle buttons. I guess i should say that the bush man... has a VERY strong connection to the man who abused me in family foster care when i was 4 going on 5 and for 3yrs after that. The facial expressions, swagger, smile when hurting you.... the arrogance, and 'you little slut' kind of mocking attitude... i can't explain it so that it makes any sense- the man i married was much the same- only i didn't understand why i was activly (though unconsiously) seeking the 'familiar'- so i'm having a real time keeping the past where it belongs.... and being able to look at the present with clear vision.
Usually DU works SO well at this.... it doesn't help that my abuser is dying of cancer, and i fear the repercussions of that, as well as the fact that as long as i stay online, i can't get the call saying that has happened....and i really believed that perhaps bush would be removed as a result of all the harm he has caused.... at least someone would be held accountable for hurting innocence.... and have to pay for it....

i'm rambling.... i just needed to vent this all somewhere- i'm trying hard to hold it together.... and to stay focused on ways that i CAN make a difference- sorry to go on so about myself....

Anyone have any similar experience struggles??? i don't want to live obvilious... but i don't know how to balance participation and overload...... i'd appreciate anyones advice

thanks
blu

please forgive my lack of puncuation, grammar and spelling- if i proofread, i'll delete it all... and i feel i should ask, rather than just struggle in silence.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 03:21 PM
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1. Well, Blue
I turned it all off. I don't watch news on television. Hell, I haven't watch anything on television for several weeks. And on DU I stick with the non-political forums. I don't read or post in GD, GDP, LBN, etc. I sort of get the gist of what's going on in the world from the forums I do visit, though, but I don't get immersed in it.

That approach has kept me sane since the election.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 03:38 PM
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2. I do understand precisely what you are saying in your
'rambling rant', about how layers of past experiences sift over the real world and present events. The way you describe it all without all of the proper grammar and punctuation gets it across very well to me.

I have found a place for much of my past traumas, but at times like this they also rise up more in my consciousness and mingle with my feelings about what all is happening in our world.

Sometimes ranting is what we need - I use a journal for this too in rough times - and sharing with friends and people who "know".

Taking care of yourself is the first priority in making a difference in the world, I believe. Do what you have to do to survive and keep some kind of balance. I hope you feel better soon Bluerthanblue.

:hug:

DemEx

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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-02-05 11:51 PM
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3. like a train wreck, it is .
hard to look away, even as you feel the nightmares forming. so hard.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-03-05 12:42 AM
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4. Thanks all... i left for a bit... came back ... ranted
raved... cursed up a storm...
left agin, and broke down sobbing during the song Amazing Grace on the concert... i couldn't stop crying, and my 11yr old snuggled in beside me an just held on and let me weep....

i just med-ed up pretty well... and i plan on sleeping this through...
couldn't get my therapist without hassling him, and he has family in NOLA so i didn't want to add to his own burdens....

so i'm on the big tranqs to put me out till the brain stops whirring out of control...

thank you all so much for reaching out- and offering kindness in the face of my f-d up ravings.... this world hurts so much... that i'd sooner be back in the hospital with all sorts of tubes and dozens of stiches bruses and unconsious than feel this emotional agony... but... i'd rather this world not be what it is, and that people not be so cruel to each other, especially those who don't have much power.

anyways... i'm getting that feeling like if i son't head for my bed, i'm gonna wind up here for the nesst 12 hrs... and that wouln'dt be good.

i hope everyone is finding solace, peace and comfort tonite-
and thank you so much for caring and opening yourselves to include me

blu
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 05:05 AM
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5. Hi there, blu
My PTSD was already triggered before this horrible tragedy, and I'm struggling as well. A little better in the last two weeks, but I can feel my reaction under my meds.

Imho, we stick with basics. Eating, resting, being gentle with ourselves, remembering we're not alone with it all.

:hug:

Beth
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 12:11 PM
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6. I think a lot of us are having past feelings while seeing this horror
in NO. And I understand about *. I can't stand to look at him but I'm not sure why.
Try and remember that what you are feeling is just that - feelings. They are not dangerous they are just feelings. They can be very uncomfortable but they will always subside.

I was taught to take the word "danger" out when speaking of feelings. It really helps diffuse them.

You are not alone. I can identify with everything you said.

:hug:
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-04-05 11:41 PM
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7. thanks again... i really had a melt down today...
completely fell apart while driving my car....
hd to pull off the road, and as my sons sat there with me i sobbed for several minutes....
... i understand alot more about why i react as i do... but controling it is a different matter all together.

i wish i felt up to writing more- you don't know ho much it helps being able to ..'open' up and be vunerable here-

'snowball' really got to me... and my mind has been singing a song .. writing a poem.. about that little guy who cried so hard he vomited... i did that myself... but it was because i had returned to my birth home, and the person who was to babysit me was none other than the abuser i had believed i had escaped.... and i cried and cried till i puked, the story of this was carried on in my family for the rest of my time there... as a 'joke' ... a "look how you thought you could manipulate everyone and get your way by crying, but *)(* knew how to handle you, he threw you a rag and told you to clean it up....." and the dogs in my life have never EVER hurt me, except by dying... which they didn't have any choice in...
i was driving on a very familiar stretch of road i drive on every sunday... and we came upon a dog that was laying in the middle of the road, he'd just been hit, and the folks who hit him were dragging his body off the road-- i looked in his eyes.. he was gone.. blood, sad... kept driving and all of a sudden i just craacked and began sobbing...i pulled off the road because my sons were with me and just kkept sobbing "i'm sorry i'm soorry' i'msorry..." for several minitues.... my younger son in the back seat kept rubbing my back saying "it's ok mum'.... but it's so NOT ok... the innocent go through such hell in this worldl.... and i can't make it stop for anyone...

.... sorry i meant to just stop in here for a quick peek around.. and wanted to say thanks- this world hurts so much... i want to make a difference... i want to bring something good out of all this... but i'm so inadiquate...
gonna work on that song/poem..... and my yonger son and i are working on raising money to send to some specific victims.. along with boxes of clothes, essentials, and the best of what we dcan offer.

going to just shut up now... thank you for hearing me.. thank you for caring enough to respond, and i hope i don't drag anyone here down with me.. gotta find a way to make a difference... the helplessness is poison.

peace, comfort and expecially heartfelt thanks to all-

blu
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Kashka-Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-14-05 12:43 PM
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8. can relate
yknow.... why do we feel we have to apologize for our feelings, its part of being alive. that you care to share them is a gift ... breaking thru the hard-heartedness of the world and reaching out to communicate to others - your statements connect with me/ my experience and I feel less alone having read it. Apart from the ptsd--there is another dimension to these feelings --to be capable of feeling your own pain and not dumping it on other people, and feeling empathy with other living beings even the poor dog killed in the street, that is a good thing no? Although yes the intensity can be difficult to live with... a couple yrs. back I really lost it when I read about children being held in abu ghraib and sodomized as a way of getting at their parents... I cried for days and it was endless, there was no sense of resolution like you sometimes get with a good cry-- ahorrid mixture of guilt and shame for my part in enabling the abuse (my tax dollars, yes, I personally write checks to the freakin IRS to pay my taxes!!!) and triggered reliving of my own stuff from childhood...

My therapist being somewhat "alternative" framed it this way, that to take on the pain of others can be a sort of "prayer," or offering to the world, and she taught me that you can sort of extend your love and care outward to the others in pain and somehow reaching your mind out in this way she thinks actually does result in something happening out in the world ... I'm not real "new age-y" myself-- but I greatly appreciated the thought and I do try to hold on to th e possibility it might be true and at least not be too down on myself for having feelings...

Re: your children, if you are feeling your pain and not acting it out/ dumping it on them, not making them "responsible" and not perpetuating the abuse another generation-- you're doing good. I have a hunch that children being children understand the language of tears and grief and direct emotional expression. It's lies and denial ("nothing is wrong, why, what's your problem?") that they have trouble with. Do they say how they feel about it, if it scares them or is OK with themn?

re: new orleans, it really hit me hard too, where it hurts... one of my fav cities, I would dream about it every now and then-- I'd be wandering around or hanging out with people there. Its very much a part of my own personal mythology representing sexuality and creative energy... as well as of course being a national treasure in its own right (said to be the capital of Black america due to its history of being a place where educated blacks and freed slaves settled). so it absolutely infuriates me, the negligence and incompetence (on all levels) which has resulted in this catastrophee

re: the rage/fear/grief triggered by current events, for me its not so much the actions or statements by Bushies-- after all there is in every society fascistic elements-- but the powerlessness of "our side" in defending or fighting against it or keeping it in check. I have trouble with the lack of imagination or leadership ie sticking their necks out with some concrete plans or alternatives (with a few notable exceptions like Russ Feingold and John Conyers) I still cant quite forgive the Democrats who (with a few notable exceptions) rubber stamped their approval of the Iraq war. All the evidence incl discrediting of powells testimony was right out there in the media and on the web. It's awful feeling like there is no one out there looking out for us, or taking responsibility.

I'm not looking for an argument about this (have noticed similar sentiments getting slammed on this board) but just to say, that my own particular pain is triggered by the resemblance to my dysfunctional family, its like we're all just beaten down and stupidly stumbling along enabling Daddy's abusive behavior..
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:52 AM
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9. Me too blu
I got PSTD too. And this stuff in NOLA has brought up issue central for me too.
If an extended sleep helps, you cope, do it, just make sure your therapist and doc supervise you,and know how much medicine you are taking and know what's going on with you,and if you got any safety contracts with them PLeeese Don't break it,because after your response to my other thread here I really do not want you to be in danger ok? People like you are rare and wonderful people in this miserable world.

And Yeah b*sh reminds me of every abuser piece of shit I have ever been around too.Sociopaths they are all the same evil hearted people.And I hope the piece of crap that hurt you kicks the bucket right now..I think it's good to see death and disease step in to get rid of bad people who live to ruin others lives..
Take care..and I hope the phone rings right now! :)



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