Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

O Hardcore Fantasy Lit Fans... What Did You Think of Narnia?

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Reading & Writing » Fantasy Literature Group Donate to DU
 
XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 02:21 AM
Original message
O Hardcore Fantasy Lit Fans... What Did You Think of Narnia?
Feel free to opine on the books or the film.

I'll share when there are a few posts. ;)
Refresh | 0 Recommendations Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
MalachiConstant Donating Member (368 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-17-05 06:42 PM
Response to Original message
1. the books are rather simplistic.
i thought it was interesting that in the film they had to add quite a bit of content to fill a feature length film. whereas, in the lord of the rings and the harry potter films they had to cut stuff out.

i do think that they made much more more of the war than c.s. lewis ever intended. in the text the battle spanned a few pages at most, but in the film this was a major plot element.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 01:02 PM
Response to Original message
2. I read the series of books once.
Someone gave them to my sons as a christmas gift a dozen or more years ago; I read them because I was suspicious of the gift; I didn't want other adults sending my sons christian "messages."

I thought they were ok. I never read them again, and I don't remember them very well. That says something about my opinion of their literary merits.

I remember the cupboard, the lion, and some kids. I remember that the "white witch" reminded me a little of H.C. Anderson's "Snow Queen."

So we took my grandson to see it yesterday. We saw the first 30 minutes or so, he got sick, we took him home. My impression of the first 30 minutes:

I don't remember the bombing sequences at all. It started slowly. The pagan vs xtian symbolism was there if you were looking for it: the untrustworthy faun, the creatures dancing in the fire, very pan/pagan like, down to playing the pipes. The evil, treacherous, tempting white witch, out to capture the sons/daughters of adam/eve. The legend involving those sons/daughters. How those played out in the larger story I never got to find out. I'll check back here to see what others thought.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-20-05 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. The bombing wasn't in the book
and that's why you don't remember it. :P
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-21-05 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. lol
No wonder.

What was the point?
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 01:52 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. I think it was to explain
What they're doing in a giant house in the country with a random Professor and his random Housekeeper. :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 10:38 AM
Response to Reply #2
6. Snow Queen was a great story - about love and time.
It actually created a plausible world.
Not so Narnia - I saw some TV adaptation before - I thought it had all the draw backs of the LOTR (wars and violence) and none of the good stuff. So, I didn't try reading it or enriching jeb's buddy and his RW friends.
yeah, the political circus was one factor (of many) in keeping me away. Still, had I been attracted by the story, I may have looked into it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-26-05 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. Maybe that's why I was reminded;
Snow Queen made a more lasting impression, apparently.

Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-27-05 12:04 PM
Response to Original message
8. Saw the Narnia trailers at the movies
Edited on Tue Dec-27-05 12:06 PM by Pithy Cherub
and yawned. The books seem mildly interesting. Adaptations rarely live up to the books and the context the written word provides. Narnia holds some mystical power over the religious folks, but it defeats my logic synapse to figure out Narnia magic good vs. Harry Potter magic bad. Narnia isn't worth putting that much time into. Sorry...

It took me 10 years to see ET, probably the same with Narnia.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-29-05 12:35 AM
Response to Original message
9. I really really enjoyed the books growing up
I'd say that Narnia led into my liking of a lot of other books.

I did a reread three years ago and I still liked them, but Lewis is clearly a Tory and a monarchist.

I thought the film was visually very well done, but the scenes seemed to jump around a bit with little transition, and upon reflection, I think it's because the characters weren't very complex in the film. If I'd had more connection to the characters, the film may have drawn me in a bit more.

Sadly, it seemed like parts of the film were taken from Star Wars, Harry Potter, and LOTR, which is depressing because Narnia predates all of these except LOTR, to which it's contemporary. It confused me a bit that the filmmakers didn't see this coming and try to head off some of it. Like the scene with the kids on the train, for example, which is a scene that isn't even in the books.

Finally, the CGI was really well done, but sometimes almost to the point of distraction, such as in the scene at the stone table. I was more interested in looking at the critters than following the witch's speech.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-03-06 04:19 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. I had the same problem.
I was trying to figure out what all the different creatures were.

I will say for the movie that Tilda Swinton was AWESOME. She stole the movie. I also liked the Beavers a lot.

Everything else was sort of soulless. I didn't really get why they set up Edward in the beginning as needing a father figure, but he goes to the mother figure of the witch. Was the point that he was redeemed by the father figure of Aslan? If so, they botched that.

King Kong had a LOT more soul, in my opinion.

I really enjoyed the books as a kid, but I recall them being sort of sad. I think there was a common thread in them of Lewis pining for something lost that he was trying to recreate in his fantasy world, similar to what Tolkien did (and Tolkien did it way better). I compare the Narnia books more with Lloyd Alexander's Welsh-themed fantasy series, you know, the one that included the Black Cauldron.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
politicat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 12:05 AM
Response to Original message
10. Dull.
I made it about halfway though the first one as a teenager and quit - now considering that as a teenager, I rarely dumped books, that should tell you something.

I really don't have any interest in trying again. I prefer Lewis' adult work - I adore the Screwtape letters. (Though I definitely root for Screwtape....)
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun Dec 22nd 2024, 09:21 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » DU Groups » Reading & Writing » Fantasy Literature Group Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC